Replacing the terrible stock tuners? (2019 Cort - 'Crafted in Indonesia')

Discussion in 'Squier Telecasters' started by peskywinnets, Sep 19, 2020.

  1. jjudas

    jjudas Squier-holic

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    I also have a set of Hipshot tuners that I installed a few years ago on one my Strats. IMO Hipshot and Gotoh make the best quality tuners.
     
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  2. jefffam

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    I learned to 'tune up' to pitch, after I bought my first 'real' guitar ('73/'74). I've done that ever since, regardless of the quality of the tuners, open gear cheapies or high dollar locking. Never 'tune' down to a pitch. It was learned early along with linseed oil for fretboards and alternate picking. On the ensuing 46 or so odd years, I've neither seen, nor heard anything as cause to change those things. '
     
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  3. GilmourD

    GilmourD Squier-Meister

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    So... Here's the real question, @peskywinnets... What tuners are on the guitar to begin with? Got pics?
     
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  4. fuelish

    fuelish Squier-holic

    Have never had a problem with any stock tuners over a bunch of guitars over many decades...check your nut slot cuts, check your string winding technique... it ain’t rocket science
     
  5. peskywinnets

    peskywinnets Squier Talker

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    This is definitely sloppiness in the tuner mechanisim ...I've been involved with guitars for 40 years...I know what I'm doing! (& in that 40yrs, likewise I can't ever recall experiencing this degree of backlash...I'm shocked)

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  6. GilmourD

    GilmourD Squier-Meister

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    Have you tried tightening the screws on the knobs? Be CAREFUL not to overtighten that screw but what it does is draw the worm screw in towards the knob a little bit which can possibly clean up the slop with the gear. I've had some sloppy sealed gear tuners before that a SLIGHT tightening of that screw fixed my issues.
     
  7. BlueSquirrel

    BlueSquirrel Squier-holic Silver Supporting Member

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    Which screw do you mean? Have you got any pic?
     
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  8. BlueSquirrel

    BlueSquirrel Squier-holic Silver Supporting Member

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    I must have missed it. which washers are these?
     
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  9. GilmourD

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  10. Shine

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    Calling on @Eddie

    You should be seeing the bat in a circle lit up on the side of a building right about now. :)
     
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  11. peskywinnets

    peskywinnets Squier Talker

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    Have a virtual beer on me!!! Tightening those screws up (which were pretty slack on a few tuners) has pretty much sorted the problem (one of the tuners is stiff, but no backlash now - liveable).

    Thanks to all, but especially to GilmourD
     
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  12. jefffam

    jefffam Dr NC Gold Supporting Member

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  13. GilmourD

    GilmourD Squier-Meister

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    Good deal! Glad I could help.

    My philosophy is to always go for the free solutions first. :D
     
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  14. Best1989

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    I think he is summoned with the Squier logo instead of the bat haha
     
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  15. Shine

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    Good one! :D
     
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  16. BadGas

    BadGas New Member

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    I recently purchased a new Fender Player Series Strat HSH. It wouldn’t stay in tune and tuning it was a chore. When I turned the tuner I could hear the string getting stuck in the nut slot. It is presently in the shop to have it replacement with a bone but. I also recently bought a Squier ‘51 with a aftermarket neck and Gotoh or Grover mini tuners. I had the issue with that guitar. It was horrible. I took it into the shop and now it’s fine. The tech did some work on the nut.
     
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  17. Sonicbridge

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    I put these on my Squier Contemporary and have been very pleased with their performance. Makes for quick string changes as well. I think I paid $44 total. Direct, "drop-in" fit.

    Tone Ninja https://www.toneninja.com/
     
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  18. archetype

    archetype Squier-holic

    ^^^This. The tuners may have a lot of lash in the gears, but they hold tune if you string them right. Put your efforts in a good, well-cut nut (or wolf cookie), first.

    By the way... what are the dimensions you're dealing with? Bore diameters in the headstock? Shaft diameters? Vintage housing? Pin located? A couple of pictures would help us help you.