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Discussion in 'Squier Stratocasters' started by VM51SQ, Jul 24, 2020.
I've been waiting for this reply !!
The Kinks were one of the British Invasion bands to slash their speakers for distortion.
Make a shallow 3 ft diameter hole in your back yard and it with water from the garden hose. Wait about a half hour and then toss in your axe, swish it around a bit. The take it inside and empty your mommies vacuum cleaner's bag onto it. Now your geetar is nice and "dirty" ....
A dirty sound comes from an amp, not the guitar, unless you have one of those $59 Chineez POS clones from Ebay.
I've never tried the Kent Armstrong Vintage '52s, but I can imagine that they are higher quality than the DD pickups.
Furthermore, I looked at their specs and they are totally different in terms of construction / material / wind / output, etc. Among the many differences, the Kent Armstrong are alnico 3 vs alnico 5, their neck pickup's DC resistance is 6 K and the bridge is 7.7 K.
Your best bet could be to either find another set of similarly-spec'd Kent Armstrong pickups (second-hand, perhaps?), or get new pickups that are closer in quality and specs (you could talk to Ken Rose on Squier Talk, he makes great boutique pickups).
Once you have them, you'll probably have to play them through the exact amps, pedals etc. to get closer to the sound you're looking for.
Yeah, I think Kent Armstrong PUs are as close as you're going to get Fralin PUs without spending an arm and a leg. What's holding me back from changing PUs on my Strat, is that I really do like the clean tones on that guitar. Of course I would have to try out different guitars and PUs to find out what's out there that I like more, but that could end up being expensive and not getting me anywhere. Right now, I'm thinking I should save up for an HSH strat, and that should get me the tones that are in my head. Like I said, I really love my Tele style guitar, but nothing is as comfortable and enjoyable to play like a Strat. Thanks for all the input!
If you got that for less than a Boss Blues Driver, you're very lucky. All those Tubeworks pedals with a 12AX7 are collector's items, and usually go for big bucks. They're basically newer versions of the even more collectible Chandler Tube Driver. I had the rack mount version of the Real Tube, which is probably worth even more now. I had several different rack mount tube preamps, including a Peavey one, an ART one, and a Marshall one. They're all worth big bucks now.
Not a huge RAT fan...way too '80s for me.
I think it was Dave Davies that was one of the early pioneers of that technique!! Like on "You Really Got Me" and "All Day And All Of The Night" respectably.
I use clean amps, so I use pedals for dirt. In my opinion, the tones you can get are always a combination of guitar, amp, and gain stages (pedals). In my case, I'm never going to get dirt from my amp, at least not at the volume levels I want to play at. In my original post, I wasn't questioning the ability to get dirty tones with a Strat, but rather the characteristics of dirty strat tones. I've come to accept that I just don't like them as much as I do the clean tones on a strat. That's not true for my other guitars. Just wanted to know other peoples thoughts. The tone is actually in our hedas, I think.
I guess you're right.
In appearance you mean?
David Gilmore, John Scofield, Bill Frisell, Robert Fripp, Mike Campbell, Nels Cline, Rivers Cuomo, Bonnie Raitt, Mike Stroud, Doug McComb and many, many more non-80’s-sounding players say you might be doing it wrong!
I've never owned one, but if I did...you're right, I probably would be doing it wrong ! I guess one more pedal in my collection wouldn't hurt. In Fairness, the sound that is typically associated to the RAT is pretty '80s, like most of the hair metal bands. At least the ones I've always know of. If you say Mike Campbell used one, then you have my interest. I love his tone !
Back when the dinosaur's ruled I bought one of the first Fuzz Face pedals..thought it was gold ,and it was.
I regret not having it tiday as it was the original back then,,,I believe there is a take off one that you can buy nowadays,anyone have one?
with 2 humbuckers does a Strat retain any of it's characteristic tones ? I've never had an HH strat, so I really don't know. I Just got an HSS hardtail, and surprisingly, in the bridge position, it still sounds pretty straty, and it does sound better with dirt. Kind of the best of both worlds!
No, not at all. It a Les Paul with a longer scale neck. That's why that pickguard doesn't have a body.
I'd get a 1 Humbucker Pickguard. You'd have to rip your other Pickguard out, and put a nice Dimarzio Tone Zone in the Bridge in the new Pickguard. Make it a Delonge style Geetar. Do away with those single coils. You can also put in a push pot to split the humbucker in case you wanna tap the coils. Sorta like my Squier shown below.
It's always best to keep it simple !