Fake EMG's

Discussion in 'Pickup Joint' started by JurnyWannaBe, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. JurnyWannaBe

    JurnyWannaBe Squier-holic

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    Back around Thanksgiving I picked up a Schecter Omen Extreme from a local pawn shop. I was pretty pumped when I saw that it had a set of EMG 81 / 85's in it. I've been fighting with it, on and off, since I got it home. No matter what I did, I couldn't get those pups to make a sound. I probably spent about 20 hours on Google and YT trying to figure them out. Yesterday, I finally broke down and contacted EMG Customer Service. I explained what was going on and Alex Militech (heckuva nice young man) asked me to send him some pics of what I had. I got his response back a few minutes ago. It turns out my EMG's are fake Chinese knockoffs :mad: I'm both disappointed, and relieved. I hate that I wasted all that time fighting with them, and not being able to play my nused guitar. I'm relieved that it wasn't anything that I was doing wrong in my hookup.
    Anyways ... up until about an hour ago I had no idea that fake EMG's even existed. Oh well ... lesson learned :(o_O
    P.S. If anyone is interested in these little beauties send me a PM. I'll let them and all the wiring go for free, shipping included. Maybe someone else can get them to working.

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  2. Eddie

    Eddie My Squier is on Fire !!!

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    Is the Pawn Shop liable for selling fake pickups?
     
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  3. JurnyWannaBe

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    I'm not sure how that would work. I've bought several guitars from this same shop and I'm pretty sure the owner knows ZIP about them other than what he can see (money wise) on eBay. I've known him for a good while I don't think he would hoodoo anybody like that. I'm just gonna count it as a lesson learned and let it go :)
     
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  4. Censport

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    I had no idea as well.
     
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  5. The Butcher

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    I assume you tried eveeything, but since it is all solderless I would wire one pickup straight to volume pot and output jack to do a "tap test" for each. I bought my EMGs individually so as to avoid this exact scenario... Bummer man.
     
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  6. ALinPHL

    ALinPHL Squier-Meister

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    Zero respect for intellectual property rights. None
     
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  7. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Dr. Squier

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    That sucks. But it doesn’t surprise me. Heck, there are fake Epiphone pickups out there!

    Did the guy at EMG say what it was that told him they were fake? Is it something that we can look out for?
     
  8. shingh2002

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    Ah that sucks man, I would have got caught out too! They look the real deal

    That would be useful info.
     
  9. JurnyWannaBe

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    @dbrian66 & @shingh2002 here's the pertinent parts of the e-mail about the fake pups:

    I hate to have to inform you that these are not legitimate EMGs. Our pickups have gold plated prongs and the mounting tabs protrude out from the bottom of the pickups, whereas these are flush with the bottom. You may want to contact whoever you bought them from.

    Yeah, these are made overseas, so there is very little we can do about it legally other than trying to shut down people reselling them from the US. Definitely something you want to watch out for.
     
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  10. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Dr. Squier

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    I just went and looked at some pictures online and I see the differences that he pointed out. That’s good to know. Thanks!
     
  11. Exhead

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    Well that sucks.
     
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  12. SoundDesign

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    I would go one step further and say the previous owner probably didn't know either. They probably thought they were just getting a good deal.
     
  13. JurnyWannaBe

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    Based on what the sketchy wiring job looked like, I'm guessing the previous owner was a noob like myself.
     
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  14. Paruwi

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    Every company that saves some $$$ by outsourcing production to China should know there is a 'return' in most cases
    regardless if its guitars, pickups or even strings or cars or whatever.....

    They faked a complete Austrian city some years back

    My brother works in a company where wood-working machines are built,
    he builds prototypes, on such machines there are sometimes holes drilled on wrong places,
    guess what ? They've seen the chinese built 'fake' with those wrong placed holes
     
  15. dbrian66

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    That’s hilarious!
     
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  16. The Butcher

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    Hey thanks for sharing this info, seems tough to confidently buy EMG fitted guitars off the rack as you still can't tell until you 'pop the hood'.
     
  17. JurnyWannaBe

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    For sure ... my bubble got popped .... hard
     
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  18. Dinomikesr

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    Can you post a clear picture of the pins. I actually cannot tell from those how close they are to pickup body.
     
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  19. The Butcher

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    I think it's the mounting tabs where you screw the pickup in that has the height difference, not the prongs.

    The fakes did not extend below the pickup and that was the give away, the pins are the same distance from the body but the fakes are steel and real EMGs are gold.
     
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  20. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Dr. Squier

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    I couldn’t see the difference at first either. Here is a good picture of a real one. If you look at the little plastic support piece of the terminals, you can see the terminals pass through them and then turn down into the pickup. The ones @JurnyWannaBe has, it looks like the plastic supports are flush with the pickup.

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