Conversion bushing is too small — DIY solution?

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  1. campermoose

    campermoose Squier-Meister

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    Trying to upgrade to vintage style Gotoh tuners, but the tuner holes are a bit too large for 3/8" conversion
    and too small for 10.2 / 10.5 mm bushings.

    Is using masking tape or other material to enlarge bushings frowned upon / has serious downsides? Foil? Thin sheet metal?
    Rather not mess with the headstock itself, but tired of buying and returning wrong bushings.

    Thank you!

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  2. beagle

    beagle Squier-Nut

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    I've used tape, foil, paper, whatever. It's not permanent, hurts nothing and once the ferrules are pressed home only you know what you did. ;)
     
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  3. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    It would probably be better to use a wood reamer tool and SLOWLY remove a bit of wood from the front, very carefully, so the large bushings are able to press in.....
     
  4. beagle

    beagle Squier-Nut

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    I'd go with the paper/tape. Less chance of screwing up and the neck remains stock. Tapered reamers aren't the right tool for the job and the holes are too big anyway, not too small.
     
  5. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    Yeah I thought he said it was too small for 3/8" oops.....
     
  6. beagle

    beagle Squier-Nut

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    It's mixing metric and imperial, but I'm used to it after over 50 years of doing it myself.
     
  7. campermoose

    campermoose Squier-Meister

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    Thank you for recommendations!

    Lol, yeah, the sizes are all over the place, and once the bushings are bigger than 3/8" the markings switch to Metric (which I prefer anyway). Guess writing 13/32" (10.2mm) throws people off completely :D

    Metric just makes so much more sense :)
     
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  8. Michael7

    Michael7 Dr. Squier Gold Supporting Member

    You may be able to cut 3/8" wide metal shims out of a beer can and coil them around a socket or dowel to get a bit of curl in them. Just not sure how that aluminum is. Can probably cut it with a utility knife.
     
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  9. gary mitchell

    gary mitchell Squier-Nut

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  10. Michael7

    Michael7 Dr. Squier Gold Supporting Member

    I meant to say that I didn't know how thick the aluminum is, but I measured a pop top and that was .010". That means a shim from a can would reduce the hole diameter by .020", which is just over half of a millimeter. In case this info is needed at a later date.
     
  11. DrBeGood

    DrBeGood Squier-holic

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    Done that once and it works great.
     
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  12. Jay Jackson

    Jay Jackson Squier-Nut

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    I wonder if you can get some heat shrink to fit over the bushing and increase the Outer diameter that way.
     
  13. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe Squier-holic

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    Plumber's tape.
     
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  14. campermoose

    campermoose Squier-Meister

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    Thank you again!
    I reordered the bushings from Stew Mac, these were the closest match, will try the beer can first — seems like having softer materials light plumber's tape and shrink wrap might be a problem due to pressure.
     
  15. Tamarindo03

    Tamarindo03 Squier-Nut

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    I made my own conversion bushings out of an aluminum tube so that I can use the original vintage style bushings.

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  16. surf green

    surf green Squier-holic

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    DSCN4358-001.JPG I've used chrome screw trim rings on older guitars when the factory bushings are missing. No mods, drop 'em over the stem and the wound strings hold them down tight. Available at any hardware dept.
     
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  17. campermoose

    campermoose Squier-Meister

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    Looks exactly like my situation, down to the rollers :D, early MIK though. Are you installing alternative rollers too? I was looking to the metal ones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  18. archetype

    archetype Squier-holic

    That's a pretty slick fix. Also known as trim washers.
     
  19. SoundDesign

    SoundDesign Squier-holic

    I use aluminium foil tape.
     
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