Cheap practice amps can surprise you

duceditor

Squier-Axpert
May 29, 2014
16,998
The Monadnocks, NH USA
‘Modeling,’ whether it be a flexible, sophisticated digital, or a well designed, simple, analog circuit, works. And in truth just a few watts (5 or even less) gets far louder than most of us typically play. So why not?

And yes, speakers are the rub. Or until recently were.There size matters. And quality. -Meaning not just the speaker unit itself, but the entire cabinet construction and design,

Well, until recently. For today, with guitar amps as with “hi-fi” speakers, sophisticated design makes the big, heavy, systems of the past unneeded for most uses.

The various Spark models each demonstrate this to varying degrees. But as here, other, less tonally sophisticated (and less flexible) designs have done so too.

But yes, for those the speakers are usually the weak spot. As with cheap audio/video gear.

-don
 

DougMen

Squier-Axpert
Jun 8, 2017
11,736
Honolulu, HI
Even the "toy" battery amps.

Though a decent cab, they can shine.
duceditor's new Go amp thread reminded me of this example from about a decade ago.


It's always the stock speakers that hold them back it seems.
If you can afford a $1000 412 cab why would you use it with a $40 toy amp instead of a better one? It makes no sense, other than to get clicks in a YT video.
 

AxelMorisson

Squier-holic
Nov 15, 2021
1,311
Fagaras, Romania
If you can afford a $1000 412 cab why would you use it with a $40 toy amp instead of a better one? It makes no sense, other than to get clicks in a YT video.
For giggles of course- I mean surely don't replace a good amp with a toy, but build a toy and have fun with it ALSO. Plus it's a nice beginner project...for kids and guys just starting out- hey, I'm playing my self built amp! and stuff. Of course, keep the good amp close too ;)
 

duceditor

Squier-Axpert
May 29, 2014
16,998
The Monadnocks, NH USA
Thought I'd add a few words here on what to me just has to be the bestest mini practice amp: Positive Grid's new "Go."


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In size it is, in 2 of its dimensions (height and width) smaller than an iPhone. (Its depth is considerably greater -- you can't slip it into a pants pocket), and I don't know that everyone here will see it as "cheap." (Currently it can be had for $129) But what an amazing amplifier it is!

I'm writing about my experiences with it in some depth here.

Its diminutive size does of course limit its volume output. (5 watts into a very small speaker aided by a slightly larger passive radiator) But for practice and 'bedroom' playing many would find it adequate. Plus it has many other useful features via it web application.

-don
 

DougMen

Squier-Axpert
Jun 8, 2017
11,736
Honolulu, HI
You missed the point DougMen.
Yep, I did, because it's dumb and pointless. If you're going to add a speaker out to a small practice amp, you might as well do it to a good one, like a Fly, Katana Mini, Vox Mini, Roland Micro Cube, or Fender Champion or Mustang.
 

Robb

Doctor Squior
Silver Supporting Member
Jan 13, 2011
7,019
Chertsey
I kinda like the sound of my small Mountain amp (MTN) I got last week, I plugged it into a 4 x12 cab and still sounds as good as some of
what we may call real amps, I must remind you that this amp is only 5 watts and a lonely volume knob.
 
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