Accentuator

Discussion in 'The Buzz Box' started by Eddie, Oct 13, 2021.

  1. Eddie

    Eddie My Squier is on Fire !!!

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    I mentioned a few months ago that I wanted to get the JHS Little Black Box accentuator.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CIHB8FY/?tag=squiertalk-20

    It's $45.

    Someone had mentioned that another company made a similar accentuator. I think it was priced around $25.

    Would anyone know off-hand which company makes the $25 accentuator box?

    Thanks in advance. :)
     
  2. Powerstroke

    Powerstroke Squier-holic

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    Yep it's just variable resistor in the way of the signal
     
  3. wak atak

    wak atak Squier-Meister

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    attenuator,goes in effects loop?
     
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  4. shingh2002

    shingh2002 Squier-Nut

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    Eddie, think this has been mentioned a few times but the attenuators you’re speaking off are not really attenuators, they’re volume pots that are placed in the effects loop between the Pre amp and Power amp. If your amplifier already has a Master Volume, it’s completely moot.

    An attenuator takes a hot signal from the speaker out of your amplifier, after the pre and power amp, and lowers your overall signal going into your speakers. This is useful on an amp where there isn’t a master volume OR effects loop, or in the instance where you want that power amp saturation from going full volume.

    If you run your amp at full MV but you’re throwing in another volume pot in the effects loop which you’re keeping at a low volume, you’re effectively nullifying the high volume you have on your MV.
     
  5. Eddie

    Eddie My Squier is on Fire !!!

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    Yeah, but mine is ugly. But heck, it works. Maybe I just need a nicer case like yours. I have to go digging for a nicer box.

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  6. Eddie

    Eddie My Squier is on Fire !!!

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    Yes, using as a volume pedal to decrease the decibels. By running the gain and the master on 10 on a tube amp, I'm able to crank out the highest gain distortion. Without the volume pedal, it would be too loud. That sweet spot is when it's cranked.

    So the volume pedal would bring the decibels down without losing that sweet spot.
     
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  7. shingh2002

    shingh2002 Squier-Nut

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    The distortion is coming from the gain knob, not the master on the amp. Put your gain on 1, max you MV and then place your volume pedal/pot in the loop and lower the decibels and you’ll see what I mean. You don’t need the volume pedal because you have the MV.

    Theres some power amp saturation from maxing out the Master Volume, but a volume pot in the effects loop kills that saturation because it’s limiting the signal at the same point as the MV. You’ll only retain that power amp saturation (some atleast) with a attenuator between the amp and the speaker.
     
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  8. archetype

    archetype Squier-holic Silver Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2017
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    It's just a potentiometer-in-a-box to pad/reduce the signal level in the loop.
     
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  9. Dr Improbable

    Dr Improbable Squier-holic

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    My Marshall DSL20c doesn't have a "master' volume. Just a volume for each channel. The tone stack doesn't engage until the volume is at 9:00 or better, so at low volumes it sounded very harsh. The JHS little black amp box works wonders with this type of amp, but if you already have a master volume it may not help. YMMV.
     
  10. drewcp

    drewcp Dr. Squier

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    Donner has the EMO amp controller
     
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  11. Eddie

    Eddie My Squier is on Fire !!!

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    YES !! That's the one !!!

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YBV87CB/?tag=squiertalk-20

    Currently not available. Argh !!!!

    But I'll get this one when it comes back into stock. I just need to remember the name. Don't be surprised if I ask this question again in a few weeks. The memory is the first thing to go. :(
     
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  12. Oldguitarguy

    Oldguitarguy Squier-holic

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  13. Angry Possum

    Angry Possum A Psychotic 6 String Collector

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    @Eddie Get a 1 watt marshall tube head. There, problem solved. Its not cheap. Pretty pricey.

    But Will it Chug?

    Test Starts at 7:45

    Not a huge fan of this guy. But here's a demo.
     
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  14. Angry Possum

    Angry Possum A Psychotic 6 String Collector

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    Wow, the black star actually sounds better.
     
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  15. Powerstroke

    Powerstroke Squier-holic

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    The blackstar club 40 and 60 are nice. Ive been surprised how high gain
     
  16. DrBeGood

    DrBeGood Dr. Squier

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    They're stupid easy to make.

    One I made out of an old power supply box.

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