When MacGyver restrings your guitar beware

Discussion in 'Other Guitars' started by blackspider57, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:12 PM.

  1. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Squier-Meister

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    So I bought an Epiphone Les Paul Special 1 P90 a few weeks ago,
    and like it beyond any reasonable expectation.
    In other words, it's really a great guitar.

    So for some odd reason, I thought about getting another when this appeared online for
    the same price as the first,
    so I thought "why not"?

    Famous last words.

    This shows up today, and now the fun begins.
    So friends, what is wrong with this picture?
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    Exactly! Now I communicated with the seller about putting news strings on,
    so they are the culprit. (MacGyver)
    And here is the problem.
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    Whoever installed the aftermarket tuners put them on upside down.
    And the creative guitar tech thought he found a wonderful solution which was not so wonderful.
    Funny, because on the high E side it's strung correctly, but the tuners work backward.

    So stay tuned as our exciting adventure seeks a meaningful resolution.
    But really, who would send you a guitar like this?
    A hint......
    A nationwide chain :)
    And yes, I know I could fix this easily,
    but should I have to????
     
  2. Mister Noonan

    Mister Noonan Squier-Meister

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    If it was a Gibson you could just break the headstock off and flip it around. :)

    To your point - agreed, seller should resolve something like this.
     
  3. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Squier-Meister

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    Now that is funny.....:D
     
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  4. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Squier-Meister

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    Yet another example of why swapping out the tuners on an inexpensive guitar often isn't a good idea.
     
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  5. 5ofeight

    5ofeight Squier-Nut

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    Whats the big deal, its and easy fix surely and its not like you paid a fortune for the guitar.
     
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  6. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Squier-holic

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    That is pretty funny. I always wonder how someone does something like that and doesn’t notice that it’s not right?

    As far as GC (I assume that’s who you are talking about) being responsible for fixing that, I don’t think they are. They are not in the business of refurbishing guitars. That is no different than selling a guitar with any other defect. As long as the guitars overall condition matched their description, it’s just one of the perils of buying used guitars.

    That said, you got a nice guitar at a pretty good price, right? And it has upgraded tuners! Some assembly required! ;)
     
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  7. nitro

    nitro Squier-holic

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    Right on point. But, why not try? And , on the other hand, for what it is I'd take care of it myself and consider it a good deal with the upgraded gear , as @dbrian66, just said. But then again,... either way , you can handle it and be happy about it. you got a killer little guitar that is nice and cool looking and plays well. I do all my own work any way. At least that way it's the way I want it. And at least the back of the headstock is full of extra holes.

    Don't mind me. I'm just getting up and already having one of "those" kind of day's.
     
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  8. Davis Sharp

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    Consider yourself lucky. The peg heads could be pointing inward. :)
     
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  9. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Squier-Meister

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    Hope nobody got the wrong impression.
    It's not like the doctor removed the wrong kidney.
    I actually thought it was almost funny in a pathetic way.
    It just seemed so obvious to me, (maybe not so much to others)
    that even a cheap guitar should not be shipped in that condition.

    In the spirit of MacGyver, it works (sort of).
    Of course, I can correct it,
    but I still think that I should not have to.

    That's my tale of NGD woe :)
     
  10. so1om

    so1om Dr. Squier

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    I'm pretty sure they work backward and forward, but yeah. all it would have taken was one google search or just looking at another similar guitar...
     
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  11. jtees4

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    You say you "should not have to" fix it. So don't. Return it. No one is forcing you, however, most of us would keep it and fix it since it is such an easy fix. But it's your money, not mine....so the choice is yours and you seem to have your mind made up...nothing wrong with that.
     
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  12. Mister Noonan

    Mister Noonan Squier-Meister

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    I have an expectation when I purchase cheaply from GC (assuming that is where purchase was made) that I am essentially buying a body, neck and fretwork. Like bad movies, going in with low expectations can be a good thing.

    I think @blackspider57 may be able to work something out with the seller, either with them crediting dollars or doing the work - but that is me. If I were in his position, the effort of dealing with the seller is about the same as taking the tuners out, and maybe a bit more - but IMO he was sent a guitar that was not looked over properly.
     
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  13. so1om

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    actually in this case, if the extra holes aren't going to bother you and who knows if they cross the incorrect holes as far as spacing..

    but if you fix it, I would ask for some credit of some sort. You still have the guitar you want, you get it for a lot cheaper which is an even better deal. It already had changed out parts, so...
     
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  14. Ahnlaashock

    Ahnlaashock Squier-holic

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    Actually, GC guarantees their used stock for a time period, and will fix it or give you a refund. If the seller is GC. Supposedly they go through them and check them before they sell them.
    The question is how it got out the door that way in the first place. Anyone who knows anything about guitars would see that at first glance. It even looks wrong.
     
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  15. DaveDrums

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    Looks more MacGruber than MacGyver
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  16. Loin Lover

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    The joy and excitement of buying without touching/playing. Many refuse to buy instruments this way.
    I agree, a music store should not ship a guitar this way unless their ad specified "something looks wrong, can't figure it out, doesn't affect playability". ;)
    It always amazes me when online stores advertise quality used guitars and say "needs new strings" or "probably needs a professional set up". sounds good to me.jpg
     
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  17. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Squier-Meister

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    The typical Craigslist or Facebook ad almost always says, "Missing X strings but still works"
     
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  18. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Squier-Meister

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    This is me, only because I live in a small town with limited options,
    so online buying is a risk I take. I would much prefer to hold, touch and play any guitar I am considering to purchase.
     
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  19. Loin Lover

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    I'm OK with that on FB/CL. Not music stores though. Perhaps some are not brick and mortar stores, just online flippers with a business name?
     
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  20. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Squier-Meister

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    I really appreciate the varied replies and opinions given here.
    I would hope the title of my thread revealed I have not lost my sense of humor
    and in no way consider this to be an earth-shattering event.
    Rather, it is merely a minor irritation.

    The main point, was simply, that while putting on the new strings, the tech had a few choices. A. Correct the issue. B. Contact me and let me know there is an issue. Or C. Do a MacGyver fix and hope that I do not notice or care.

    I simply thought choice C. was a poor choice.
    You can agree, or disagree.
    I learn nothing from people who agree with me
    and try to remain open to the many ways one might perceive a situation.

    We now return you to our regularly scheduled program :)