What does a clean boost do?

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  1. horax

    horax Dr. Squier

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    Sounds basic, but if you want a clean boost, don’t you just play without distortion or overdrive?

    how can you effectively use it?
     
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  2. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Squier-holic

    One use: If you have an amp that doesn't have enough gain to give you the distortion you want, you can use a clean boost to drive the the amp farther into its own distortion while not coloring the sound .
     
  3. drewcp

    drewcp Squier-holic

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    You can use clean boost for a lot of things. "Effectively" depends on your gear and your goals.

    One example of how to use it would be to make a guitar with quiet (low output) pickups louder, to match the volume of a louder guitar. Specifics: set your amp for clean sound, with a big bad loud humbucker, like maybe an active EMG. Then if you grab a vintage Tele, it will sound super quiet so you can use a clean boost to make the Telecaster sound as loud as the first guitar
     
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  4. fadetoz

    fadetoz Squier-holic

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    kick on the clean boost for a solo to give you just a little more volume to bring the sound up to let the guitar stand out in the mix better. But like Drewcp said it can also be used to boost the input and sound like a hotter pickup.
     
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  5. Redwhiteandblues

    Redwhiteandblues Squier-Nut

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    I use a parametric EQ pedal as my clean boost and it’s always on. Pushes the front of the amp just enough to make it sparkle without darkening it at all. Then I kick on the love pedal super six srv mod to get the grit
     
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  6. LDS714

    LDS714 Squier-Meister

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    I use one when I switch instruments to keep the volume consistent.
     
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  7. jtees4

    jtees4 Squier-Meister

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    I use one for a lead boost (or I use a compressor for the same thing)....but it has to be the last pedal in the chain (only before delay or reverb).....can give a very loud lead boost in that position.
     
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  8. plangentmusic

    plangentmusic Squier-holic

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    Contrary to what some might think, a "clean boost" pedal does not add volume (or more accurately "wattage'). It essentially just raises the volume already in the amp. In other words, it's no different than just turning up the volume knob -- except that you step on a button. An external pre- amp (such as the Tech 21) will add a real boost, be it clean or overdriven.
     
  9. LutherBurger

    LutherBurger Squier-holic

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    It just adds clean gain, right?
     
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  10. fadetoz

    fadetoz Squier-holic

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    Just built a kit today.

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  11. Rodiebobw

    Rodiebobw Squier Talker

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    Son of a b.. Manifested and delivered!
     
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  12. Rodiebobw

    Rodiebobw Squier Talker

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    Pretty cool fade, havent seen any diy pedal kits..
     
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  13. fadetoz

    fadetoz Squier-holic

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    These are the first 2 I've done. They are like $23-$26 on Ebay. They are not high end stuff but seem to be decent. The directions and wiring is lacking. The tremolo took awhile since the instruction are a basic picture that leaves you with allot of questions. I replaced the cheap pots that came in the tremolo kit with better ones. If you get a kit try to find one with regular looking pots and side jacks if possible. Can't wait to try this boost on my Champ and Blues JR.
     
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  14. duceditor

    duceditor Squier-Axpert

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    My understanding is quite different.

    Turning up the volume increases the gain being sent on to the power amp. Unless that volume is already very high it'll make little of any change in anything but how loud the amp sounds.

    A boost pedal raises the input level before the signal enters the preamp. This will, if it is just small amount, possibly just raise the 'loudness' as well, but in many amps this will also to varying degrees change the sound quality, this by adding overtones and compression as the preamp stage starts squaring off the wave.

    Too, some pedals allow for emphasis and de-emphasis of various parts of the frequency spectrum. And again, because of the affect that has on the shape of the wave as that section reaches its saturation point it can noticeably effect tonal color in ways that just turning up the in-amp controls do not.

    -don
     
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  15. fadetoz

    fadetoz Squier-holic

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    I agree with Don. You can even hear exactly what he is taking about when I turn the pedal up all the way. It compresed the signal because it was pushing the front end a little too much. That amp I'm using is a SS GDec btw. I'm not an expert but I'm not on the same page with it being the same as turning up the volume on the amp. Before it distorts I can see it having the same effect, Kind of.
     
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  16. fadetoz

    fadetoz Squier-holic

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    BTW, I wasn't saying you are wrong. Just that I have a different understanding of how it works. I'm no authority on the subject. I could be wrong.
     
  17. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Squier-holic

    Yes, with one exception: When the output impedance of the clean boost is a lot lower than the guitar's pickup impedance. If you use a short guitar cable to the clean boost and any length cable to the amp, the boost will serve as a buffer amp and prevent treble loss from the otherwise long guitar cable's capacitance. This will work even with the clean boost set to zero gain (not louder when you step on the button).

    Whether the clean boost will serve as a buffer would depend on its circuit. Some will and others don't as well.
     
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  18. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    This is basic stuff - into an amp's gain channel, preferably tube - how 'hot' the guitar's signal is determines how clean or gritty the tone will be....the boost pedal is to hit the front end of the amp harder for more gain......
     
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  19. Jay Jackson

    Jay Jackson Squier-Nut

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    I don't get it is a volume pedal or your volume knob on your guitar not the same thing as a clean boost. Or dose the boost pedals have other things going on inside it to boost the signal in which case would not the extra stuff inside color your sound just like a over wound pickup colors the sound from normal wound or under wound pickup.
     
  20. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    No, we're talking about boosting the input into the amplifier beyond full volume on the guitar.....hitting the front of the amp hard for more overdrive and grit.....
     
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