NGD! Is it SE? Need help!

Discussion in 'Squier Stratocasters' started by ManKonis, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. ManKonis

    ManKonis Squier-Meister

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    Hello, guys

    Just bought this Squier strat in I Believe Torino Red colour which is absolutely beautiful.

    This guitar has a full body and nut width. Thick rosewood? fretboard with 22frets.
    It's a bit beaten around, but frets look unused and still has a protective film on the pickguard.

    I did some research and it looks like an early Squier affinity, but I can't find the serial number and I am not sure if any affinities had this colour during those times. Will I see something in neck heel?

    Some help would be appreciated.

    Thanks



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  2. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    Yes! You have a 22 fret UK/European market SE - not an Affinity...

    You will see nothing on the neck heel or in the neck pocket....the serial number was on a sticker, easily came off...
     
  3. Lonn

    Lonn Squier-holic

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    If I'm not mistaken some of the early ones has S/N stickers that would fall off after a few years. Looks nice!
     
  4. Loin Lover

    Loin Lover Squier-holic

    Jul 26, 2018
    Backwoods, USA
    I believe you have the SE exclusive to the European market--red 22 frets! From what I understand the North American SEs were black, white, or burst, all 21 fret, all tort pick guards except some blackies had solid white.

    HNRedSED!
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  5. IronSchef

    IronSchef Dr. Squier

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    Flew here on my Dragonfly
    wow, she sure is a beauty!!

    HNGD!
     
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  6. squierTony

    squierTony Dr. Squier

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    Never see these in the US.. lucky dog...
     
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  7. Rey08

    Rey08 Squier-Meister

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    Happy New Guitar Day. The Red Rhino!? Haha. They knew when marketing these that people in North America absolutely hated red guitars. :D
     
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  8. ManKonis

    ManKonis Squier-Meister

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    Thank you all ;)

    I just looked at it closer. The built quality is incomparable with japan made squiers I have, but I can't complain.
    Fret ends are sharp like blades, paint finish is good though.
    The neck shape is quite interesting, something like unfulfilled D.
    Thick uneven layer in the neck pocket which doesn't allow the neck to sit flat on the body.
    One fret is lifted, hopefully, I will manage to push it back.
    And take a look what's going on under the scratchplate, never seen this before :D

    Are all SE's like this?
    P.S don't get me wrong I understand it's a low-end guitar and I bought it for 40£.

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  9. None in North America as a whole really, unless someone where to bring one back from a European trip. Shipping one would be cost prohibitive. Cheers, Barrie.
     
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  10. I've noticed a large percentage of SE's shipped to UK and Europe have very messy route cavities. In N.A. they seem much more precise.
    Someone has chiseled that route, not factory.
    Cheers, Barrie.
     
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  11. squierTony

    squierTony Dr. Squier

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    Oh I know that. That's why i said the I never see these. Theres been several threads about these over the years.
     
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  12. gmt124

    gmt124 Squier Talker

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    Nice looking SE, and for £40 you've had a bargain.
     
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  13. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    There's a huge difference in quality between an SE and Japanese Squier stuff.....not even in the same ballpark....

    The SE is just a low end Strat with full thickness body which makes it an easy mod platform....and cheap....
     
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  14. fattboyzz

    fattboyzz Squier-holic

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    E40 sounds great to me ;)

    HNGD !
     
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  15. ManKonis

    ManKonis Squier-Meister

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    Completely agree, but the problem is that I can't just take it and upgrade it... for example, even though body size is good, but my loaded pickguard with noiseless pickups and s1 switch doesn't fit in every possible way. Looks like even bridge is fitted incorrectly.

    It might go on ebay :confused:o_O
     
  16. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    Stack pickups and an S1 should fit unless this is not a full thickness 1.75" body...
     
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  17. ManKonis

    ManKonis Squier-Meister

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    It is a full-thickness body, but I have to redrill almost all screw holes for pickguard and relocate the bridge.
     
  18. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Squier

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    Why relocate the bridge??? Screw holes is normal 100% of the time to have to fill and re-drill....I thought you were saying the noiseless pickups and S-1 were too tall to fit in the body cavity.....
     
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  19. ManKonis

    ManKonis Squier-Meister

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    Yes, that one is easy to fix. Just scrape some thick paint leftovers from the cavity or something like that. The second problem is pickguard screws and then the bridge, which is not straightly screwed...
    Maybe you can see it in the picture.

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  20. squierTony

    squierTony Dr. Squier

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    You generally have to make new holes for the pickguard when you swap one out. The bridge looks ok from the picture. Was it strung up when you got it? Were the strings where they were supposed to be?
     
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