New Sawtooth Day......Not another one!

Discussion in 'Other Guitars' started by mdparent03, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    Finally got my Sawtooth tele today. Double boxed. Inner box was almost untouched. Opened inner box to find the guitar in one piece. Yay! All the extras that came with it were thrown in next to the inner box. I think that the gig bag and the tuner are worth the price I paid. Very nice Chromacast gig bag and very accurate & bright display tuner. The guitar itself is not that great right out of the box. This is for sure going to need work done to it.
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  2. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    Where do I start with this thing? Let's take it from the top. The tuners are fine. Nothing great but will work. String trees are mounted wrong. The face of the headstock is finished beautifully with clear gloss and nice logo. The rest of the neck is satin finish in some areas and just bare wood in others. (I can tell the difference). The frets need polishing but the ends are smooth as well as the fingerboard edge looks to have been rolled a little. The nut is cheap plastic and cut wrong. I will be refinishing this neck before it gets any play time.
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  3. Tele-kitty

    Tele-kitty Squier-Meister

    Dec 12, 2016
    Florida made it :D Yeah, I love the little tuner that came with it. Nice and bright and I can see it really well.Beats my pitch clip I had.

    Is it bad I can see where your knobs were bouncing against the box? Mine had holes in the box loosened mine up to the point they free spun and broke wiring. Might give a check and tighten if need be.

    Yeah the neck is almost raw wood it seems. I already have a new nut on the way myself. That one is terrible..
    And that reminds me.. I forgot new string trees when I got the nut..oops. :oops:

    Have fun, gonna be a nice project for us all..:D
  4. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    The neck pocket has finish cracks on both sides right out of the box. The body has a very nice glossy finish that is almost flawless. The pickguard is not mounted straight or does not line up with the body lines. I will see if I can either make that better or possibly just get rid of it all together. Pickups are going to stay for now until I can really evaluate them later. The volume pot was loose and was just rolling on the control plate. There is no way this can be played right out of the box. I'm glad that modding was in my plan from the beginning.
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  5. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    I wish the whole neck was done like the front of the headstock. That would have been really nice. I have some Danish oil that will finish this neck out nicely.
  6. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    The accessories pics for good measure.
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  7. Ralph124C41

    Ralph124C41 Squier-holic

    Feb 10, 2016
    Guitars with similar finish cracks at the neck heel are routinely sold as "B" stock items at Different guitars, different retailer ... but essentially the same problem. You can try to get some sort of relief from Walmart but I am guessing you will just be told to return it for a refund.
  8. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    I really don't plan on returning this and I'm not complaining about any of these things. Just going over it to see what I need to fix and what everyone can expect from these things if they order it. At normal pricing I would not have gotten this, but for under $50 I think that the issues can be resolved.
  9. pfapin

    pfapin Squier-Meister

    Mar 6, 2018
    St Louis
    They will offer you a whopping $5 off your order if you tell them about the cracks. Thats what they tried to offer me to keep mine that was supposed to be a surf green color instead of the butterscotch blonde I received. %10 off is not too bad of a compensation I guess especially given that the guitars were only $50 to begin with.
  10. jvin248

    jvin248 Squier-Meister

    Jan 10, 2014
    That box took some hits or heavy weights on top of the knobs.

    Those clip on tuners are around $10, bringing the cost of the guitar itself down 15-20% ...

  11. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Squier-Nut

    Jan 19, 2018
    GA USA
    Chromacast bags are nice for the lower end of the market. I've bought a guitar one and a bass one.

    I wish that would take the time to get the nut right on inexpensive guitars. That would make a huge difference in quality for a very low price.
  12. fattboyzz

    fattboyzz Squier-holic

    Nov 29, 2017
    Newnan ,Ga.
    Cool enough for me at 50 bucks :0) congrats !

    You gonna go with a bone nut on it ?
  13. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
  14. spyhawk36

    spyhawk36 Squier-Meister

    Sep 23, 2011
    For 50 bucks that’s a deal.
  15. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    Got it tore down today and started working on the neck. Quick touch up in certain areas and then put first coat of Danish oil on. You can really see the difference from the pic of the fretboard and the front of headstock.
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  16. Michael7

    Michael7 Squier-holic

    You have some fantastic tight parallel grain on that fret board! I look forward to seeing the outcome. It is going to be gorgeous.

    Are all the pics above after the first coat?

    I'm surprised seeing you using Dark Walnut Danish oil. I was just researching some options for finishing my neck soon and saw a recommendation to use Danish oil in Natural finish. However, it was not quite as amber as I would have liked.

    If you have other necks you've done in Danish oil, I'd love to see the before and after pics. I want to get going on mine this weekend, since my new pickups arrive on Monday. I'm back in VA from CA, and it will be maybe 50 degrees in my garage work space, so I want to find something I can apply when it is that cool.

    I have a years-old can of DO in Walnut, but had a terrible time getting it to dry. I used it on my pedal board, and had to leave it in the sun for days to harden enough to not leave fingerprints when I handled it. I'm sure the oil had deteriorated due to its age.
  17. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    All those pics were before I applied the first coat. Even though it is a dark walnut color, it only slightly darkens the wood. It does take a long time to dry as well. I usually give it 24 hours in between coats. Then buff it as much as I want. I will be putting several coats on it as well as the fingerboard. Will post more pics.
  18. mdparent03

    mdparent03 Squier-holic

    May 6, 2013
    Beaumont, CA
    Before and after one coat.
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  19. surf green

    surf green Squier-holic

    Jul 15, 2014
  20. Michael7

    Michael7 Squier-holic

    Thanks for your info and pics! That looks great! It also has a satin gloss to it already. And the darkening is less than expected, as you said. How long did the DO sit on the surface before you wiped it down? Did you thin the Watco at all?

    Did you sand the existing finish back to bare wood or just go over the original finish?

    On my Sawtooth neck, I have thick gloss on the front of the head stock, very thin satin on the fret board, satin on the back of the neck, and pretty close to bare wood on the back of the head stock. With all these different starting points, how will you get a consistent final color? I was thinking of sanding all surfaces except the fret board back to bare wood, and very lightly sanding between the frets so whatever color I use can penetrate. If I try to reshape the head stock, then I'll definitely have some bright white bare maple that needs some tint to it.

    If I start on mine later today, I may try to use a heat source to speed drying. It is cold, wet and extremely nasty.

    I'm off to Woodcraft soon to grab a can.
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