Neat trick with Xdim7

Discussion in 'Music, Theory, Tab and Such' started by Davis Sharp, May 28, 2018.

  1. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
    Maryland, USA
    I had been messing around with C#dim7 and noticed that I could slide the same shape up in 3 fret increments and it would sound sweet.

    So I pulled it up on the Ultimate Guitar app (C in this case) and saw that it's the same chord. I wonder if there are other chords that keep the same fingering when slid up less than an octave.

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  2. Zipslack

    Zipslack Squier Talker

    Jan 7, 2018
    Brookhaven, MS, USA
    Research moveable chord shapes, especially barre chords. Then try wrapping your head around the CAGED system for more moveable goodness.
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  3. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
    Maryland, USA
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  4. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
    Maryland, USA
    Thanks for the comment. It's different from CAGED, because (1) your fingers keep the same shape and (2) you slide up 3 frets and you're playing the same chord.
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  5. sooper8

    sooper8 Squier-Meister

    Mar 13, 2012
    I know close to zero about music theory but I seem to recall its something to do with 3rds??? Maybe? (it's all the same chord)
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  6. DougMen

    DougMen Squier-holic

    Jun 8, 2017
    Honolulu, HI
    The simple answer is no. That's the only chord that retains the same fingering with different inversions because of the nature of the dim7 chord.
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  7. teleaddicted

    teleaddicted Squier Talker

    Feb 11, 2015
    C(5+) = E(5+) = G#(5+)

    C E G# C (first position)
    shift four frets
    E G# C E (B# = C)
    shift four frets
    G# C E G# (B# = C) (D## = E)
    shift four frets (that makes twelve)
    C E G# C one octave up
    Same notes different bass note.
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  8. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
    Maryland, USA
    That's cool. I'll have to figure out how to work that in to a song.
    (for those like me who aren't quick with the notes, it's x3211x in the 1st position)
  9. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Squier-holic

    Jul 14, 2017
    Maryland, USA
    Thanks, that’s way easier for me! LOL
  10. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
    Maryland, USA
    :) We are not shining examples of music literacy in Maryland :)
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  11. Papa Joe

    Papa Joe Squier-Axpert

    Dec 12, 2009
    Swanton Ohio
    One of my favorite chords..Use it a lot..I like the way I can change the voicing of it by moving it to a different place on the fret board..
    It's used in the song Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground..I would move it up 4 times in beat with the song..Sounded cool..
    Another movable chord that I use a lot as a passing chord is the Aug 5th..While holding the root and 3rd, move the 5th up a half tone..
  12. sooper8

    sooper8 Squier-Meister

    Mar 13, 2012
    Great use of this chord going up the neck in Aztec Camera's Oblivious
    I think about 1.15-18 here (well, it is on the recorded version)
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  13. MikeyH

    MikeyH Squier-Meister

    Jan 2, 2017
    Trivia about that shape: dropping any of the four notes one fret will yield a dominant 7th chord. The dropped note will be the root of the new chord.
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  14. eaglesgift

    eaglesgift Squier-Nut

    Apr 18, 2014
    I guess that kind of moveability only happens for chord patterns where each note is the same distance from the next, including the last to the first (a tone and a half in this case of course).
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  15. coolpopa542

    coolpopa542 Squier Talker

    Dec 15, 2011
    william leavitt modern for guitar book #1
    dim using your fingering repeats ever 4th fret
    aug chord repeats ever 5th fret these two chords can be named for any note in the chord
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