My first mod...

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  1. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Squier-holic

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    Here are some pics of a guitar I did a long time ago with water based dyes. I dyed it black first to darken and raise the grain. Sanded it down and then did the green, and finally spray painted the burst. Then sprayed clear over top.

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  2. SquierTap

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    Well, went to Lowe's last night and got some serious sandpaper, lol... Grabbed some P80 grit and just in case I also grabbed some P50 for the palm sander... This stuff looks like it'd take rust off a '57 Chevy! Lol...
    I was actually pretty worried about takin the curves off with my oscillating sander... but I didn't have to be worried... It literally FELL apart about 10 minutes into the job! I looked and the main bolt holding the sanding head on broke! Thank God it had a little "guard" on it and it fell straight down instead of flying into me or something else!
    Of course I was also working outside... At night... Under a porch light... I thought last night a couple times that I went too far... But after workin on it for an hour or so, I got it inside and cleaned off, and I'm STILL not through that damned stuff! What do they do at the factory? Soak the bodies overnight in this stuff?!? Lol... IMG_20181004_002543834.jpg IMG_20181004_002511702.jpg IMG_20181004_002429642.jpg
     
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  3. SquierTap

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    That turned out BEAUTIFUL, man... That's the exact idea that I'm goin for... Except a lil darker... Forrest green instead of your beautiful more lime-like color... But I've got a question for ya; What, and how, did you use for your clear coat? (Here we go with the clear coat questions! Lol... I haven't EVEN gotten that far yet, but I've already thinkin about it, might as well ask the axe-perts!)
     
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  4. dbrian66

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    Just used a clear enamel out of a spray can.
     
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  5. SquierTap

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    Phew!!! Been sanding on this thing for something like 2 hours now... I've got big blisters on my index and middle fingers and more tryin to come up between the joints in my fingers... I guess everybody needs to refinish a guitar at least once... But I'll tell ya this much; Never again, lol... Like I said, I'll just drop 50 bucks and get an unfinished body (or a painted one) from guitarfetish.com... lol...
    But the good news is that I might actually get to dye this thing tonight...
    Seriously thinkin about callin this one a "pain-n-tha-@$$ Caster"... Lol...
    Or "P.I.T.A.Caster"...
     
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  6. SquierTap

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    Goin a lil different this time! Lol... Much easier, and it's almost already dry only 5 minutes later... IMG_20181004_203450743.jpg IMG_20181004_205039601.jpg
     
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  7. SquierTap

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    Well... Hello there... Come here often?
    I can live with this... No prob... Pre-burst... IMG_20181005_015013036.jpg IMG_20181005_015106472.jpg
     

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  8. dbrian66

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    That’s looking great. That’s a very cool shade of green!
     
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  9. SquierTap

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    I agree... I dig it... It's a green-@$$ shade of green! Lol...
     
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  10. SquierTap

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    Tryin to get an idea of how she'll look when I get 'er together... Still gotta "Fade To Black" and here's a handy lil tip; If ya use leather dye to color your guitar, treat it like a gremlin and keep it the hell away from water... Got a drop on the face while it was upside down getting the back stained and it resulted in some completely ungroovy water rings... Lol... So the darker spot in the left is where is where it's still damp from trying to get those out... IMG_20181005_142242715.jpg
     
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  11. SquierTap

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    Well, something finally went right, lol... But then again, I got my wife involved, lol... I know most guys SAY their wife is cool, but mine is really somethin else, man... She's been my biggest fan music-wise since high school, she's an amazing artist when it comes to drawing and painting (she even painted murals on the kids walls of their favorite cartoon characters!) and she's a pretty damned good bassist too... She's even got an awesome black and red Squier Pete Wentz signature P-Bass... Sorry to sound like one of "those" guys, but she IS pretty damned awesome, lol... She's been diggin watchin me and helpin me do this first mod, and even wants to help me build some guitars... She don't even give me hell about spendin stupid amounts of money on this "cheap" guitar, lol... But enough braggin... I asked her to gimmie a hand with the 'burst, since I'm usin leather dye and she can actually paint, lol... I gave her a couple tips from the 50+ YouTube videos I've been obsessively watchin on 'bursting guitars, and she was off... I'm really happy with it so far... I've been totally prepared for accidents, hiccups, and mishaps... And that damned coating under the paint sure was a pain... But all in all it's turnin out great, in my opinion... And that's really the only one that matters to me! IMG_20181006_012946829.jpg IMG_20181006_012908810.jpg IMG_20181006_012956566.jpg
     
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  12. dbrian66

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    She did an awesome job! Cool guitar and a super cool wife! Your a pretty lucky dude!!!
     
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  13. daan

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    Can I borrow her, the next time I gotta spray a burst? I think The last time I tried to do a burst finish stripped and redid it 3 times, and finally just bought an already finished body... yours looks great!
    Oh as far as what to cover it with, I’ve always used Shellac over the top to “lock in” the color. It seems like Shellac sticks to anything, and pretty much everything sticks to Shellac. I’ve had dyes or grain fill (and especially decals) react strangely to various clears, but a few coats of Shellac and then Lacquer or Poly over that, and it’s fine for whatever top coat you want.
     
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  14. SquierTap

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    Well, with this being my first build/mod I'm really trying to just enjoy learning the process... I've already learned A LOT... Waaay more than what I thought... I went back and forth on how to do the finish over and over, but I finally decided to try Tru Oil... I'm fairly certain I could get pretty good results with wipe on poly, since I don't have a spray rig and space is kind of a limitation... but Tru Oil is supposed to be kinda idiot-proof, which I definitely need, lol...
    I've kind of embraced all the "goofs", learned my lesson and moved on... That was the hardest part... To just accept that it IS my first guitar and it was HIGHLY unlikely that I wouldn't mess something up, and just LET GO and enjoy the learning process... Turns out, I messed a lot of it up, but that's what first guitars are for... But, overall I'm really happy with it...
    One of the main things I learned? Sanding is EVERYTHING on a guitar with a translucent finish... Granted, I started with a fully finished sunburst strat, and with it being a first attempt AND just using a power sander instead of a heat gun, it was BOUND to be a little rough... But next time, sanding will be my main priority... I had no idea how many sanding scratches were in this thing until I hit it with the dye... Then the Tru Oil REALLY brought 'em out... But like I said, next time I'll know what I'm doin... And I'll have all the materials I'll need... I started out with virtually nothing and now I've got virtually everything I'll need next time...
    So this is how it sits currently... I applied the very first coat of Tru Oil with 600 grit sandpaper to hopefully seal the pores a little without using an actual sealer, per say... And I plan on MANY more coats... And then, what the hell, I might go on and actually finish off with wipe on poly to get as close to "gloss" as I can... Like I said, mistakes are key, here... And that's the best way I personally learn... Otherwise it's just a bunch of opinions floating around about what you "must" do and what you "can't" do... And ya know what they say about opinions; They're just like something else everyone's got, and most people think that everybody else's but their's stinks... Lol...
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  15. daan

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    I love Tru Oil. I usually wipe it on with a Coffee filter. After 8-10 coats I sand it with 1000 and then buff it with old denim, like soft, worn jeans. I bought a tiny bottle a couple years ago, and it’s just now empty... Oh yeah, you probably saw this already, but it “skins over” quickly once the bottle is open, so I just poked a small hole in the foil and taped over the hole once I was done. Just a few coats makes a thin, hard and smooth finish and it really makes the wood look nice.
     
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    Took it to work with me and this makes coat #3... I can already see the Tru Oil juuust starting to build up... Think I'm gonna call this one a "Scratch-o-caster"... Lol...
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  17. daan

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    Is the grain on that, “open”? Like, can you feel it? Cause if it’s pretty smooth, applying TO with sand paper might just be sanding it back off, as fast as you’re applying it...
    Also, truoil can be tinted... cause you need more new stuff to try out, right?
    As far as grain fill, I like “Aqua Coat”, which can be rubbed on and smoothed out super easily. I tried a couple other ones and they all seemed messier and harder to flatten than AC.
     
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  18. SquierTap

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    Well, fellers... Evidently "The Magic" happens right between coats 3 and 4... @daan , the grain WAS "open" feeling, but before I left work tonight after the third coat was dry, I ran my hand over it and there was some little rough feelin spots so I hit it with the 600 grit, and MAN! It felt like glass after that... Especially compared to how it was! I made sure it was all baby-butt and when I hit it with the 4th coat it was shining like new money... So, we're back "up", lol... Which I hope isn't an indication that somethin else is about to mess up! Lol...
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  19. SquierTap

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    Tru Oil coat #5... Ooooh... Shiny...
    Well, startin to get that way, anyways... IMG_20181010_165012180.jpg IMG_20181010_165017220.jpg IMG_20181010_165023473.jpg
     
  20. Gip111

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    I'm going to be straight up... that guitar looked pretty awesome before the sanding, just sayin...
     
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