Made in Japan Squier series strat 027-4600

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  1. Yellow Peril

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    On all the strat sites I've seen lots of mentions of Mexican built Squier series Strats, but so far no-one else with a Japanese built 027-4600 model.

    Surely someone else must have one?
     
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    The serials all start with a letter, so I guess it's an O in your case...

    http://fenderjapan.co.jp/faq/serial.htm

    I had a 1993-94 MIJ Squier strat. It was Ok, although the body was heavy plywood.
     
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    Not really relevant to the initial post, but connected anyway.

    The serial number list in the link (a widely posted list, I think originally sourced from the 'Fender Book') shows the 'A' models as later than the 'E' serials, but most of the dates I've seen on 'A' serials were late 1984 on (pre- 'E' series). The earliest 'A'serial Strat I've seen is 'A000xxx) neck pencil dated 10-31'84. But that is the only glitch I can see in the list.

    I think it should go:

    JV = 1982 - 1984
    SQ = 1983 to 1984
    A =1984 to 1985
    E = 1985 to 1987........etc.
     
  4. Yellow Peril

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    The number is the model number, I already know mine is a 1995 Japanese built Squier series strat - I was just curious if anyone else had one?

    incidently this is the info Fender sent me;
    Model Name: Squier Standard Stratocaster

    Model Number: 027-4600-(Color #) and 027-4602-(Color #)

    Body: Basswood

    Neck: Maple

    Fingerboard: Rosewood #027-4600 or Maple #027-4602, 7.25" Radius (184.2mm)

    No. of Frets: 21

    Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)

    Width at Nut: 1.625” (41 mm)

    Hardware: Chrome

    Machine Heads: Standard

    Bridge: Vintage Style Tremolo

    Pickguard: 1-Ply White 8 Hole (mine's 11)

    Pickups: 3 Single Coils

    Pickup Switching: 3 position Switch (mine has a 5 position switch)

    Controls: Master Volume, Tone, Tone

    Colors: (502) Lake Placid Blue, (506) Black, (558) Torino Red, (580) Arctic White

    Strings:

    UNIQUE FEATURES:

    ACCESSORIES:

    Source: JAPAN

    MSRP: $299.99 to $419.99

    Introduced: 1985

    Discontinued:

    and this comes from Fender Reference by Pete Bertges;
    1.2.2 Standard Stratocaster
    1985 - 1997. This Japanese-built guitar is identical to the American Standard Stratocaster
    as introduced in 1986 in the new Corona factory.
    Differing Features:
    Model no. 027-4600/2, Japan
    Head 1 string clamp
    Changes over the years:
    1988 Locking nut
    1989 2nd version, similar to Mexican Standard Stratocaster
    but with 2 string retainers
    1992 3rd version (?)
    1996 only LH version (027-4620)
    Basswood body
    1-ply white pickguard w. 8 screws
    1.2.3
     
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  5. Yellow Peril

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    They are elsewhere on this site, but I've posted some pics anyway!
     

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    and some more
     

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    Yellow, what's the lable on the inside of the pickguard? I've never seen one before. Can we get a close up?
     
  8. Yellow Peril

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    Unfortunately that's the best I could do, but it gives the date and a check signature, so that's how I know that it was built in '95. There's a better shot of a scratchplate sticker on one of the other Strat sites-Just can't remember which one. I f I can find it I'll let you know.
     
  9. weelie

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    The Japanese 1990s Squiers have been a mixed bunch. Some were plywood, others not, some had Fender in large, Squier in small (mine had large Fender in silver, yours looks to be in after-CBS black style). And once they started making Fenders, they must've been ever more so, testing things, putting the worse bunch out as Squiers etc.

    The serial number list I linked is on the Fender Japan site, so I trust it. Also would make no sense in having A E B C D. And... E = Eighties, followed by alphabetical listing is much more likely. Of course the parts might have been going to different models, so a 1984 body might be in a A series etc. Clearly they were making different lines simultaneously.
     
  10. AllroyPA

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    It's like a quality control sticker the assembler checklists.
     
  11. Yellow Peril

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    Don't get me wrong. this is a fabulous guitar to play and beautifully finished, I'm just curious because, as yet, I haven't seen another (exactly) like it.

    Incidently it has a 'T' serial number exactly as a 95 should have.
     
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    SIngle ply guard is right also on the Squier Traditional; mexi-specs ? Probably.
     
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    Here's a closeup of one of those stickers. This one came outta my '98 Squier Standard Strat. I'm just curious, what are we lookin' for here? From what I've seen, you know that guitar of yours, inside out.
     

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    Interesting. I've never come across one of those stickers. Then again, I've never owned a Japanese Squier or Fender before.
     
  15. Yellow Peril

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    I was never really interested in it's background, I had to buy it because it played so well (I'd used it to audition an amp and had to go back and buy it) but once I started tracing it's provenance it became addictive. Although some questions were answered, others weren't and I just wanted to know why it didn't match the spec lists exactly.

    I read somewhere in my research (can't remember where now), that cosmetically aged pick-ups and knobs were fitted to some fenders for that 'used' look. If that's true, is that what's fitted to mine and why? They are definitely far more 'yellowed' than the ones fitted on other pics that I've seen. I asked Fender and they choose not to answer.

    The specs that Fender supplied showed a 3 way switch and an 8 hole scratchplate - mine has 5 and 11 - why the difference?

    Again no answer from Fender, then there's all the supposition that parts came from different factories, guitars built from parts bins etc. is this true or just convenient tales from dealers trying to create mystique and to sell dodgy guitars?

    One interesting fact that I've noticed is that on the couple of pictures of the underside of scratchplates I've seen and on mine, where it says 'inspector' they've all had a 'K' on them. I'd assumed that it was the inspectors initial, but as mine is Japanese and another was Mexican that can't be so - can it?

    It's like once you start tracing family histories you get hooked.
     
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    Well just remember this, Don't bet the farm on the "specs", for the simple fact, that the parts for these guitars are interchangeable. Folks may modify, change, refinish, and sell these things everyday. Who knows what you'll get when you purchase one? There may be a time when you find yourself beating a dead horse. Just enjoy that thang!
     
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    That particular one (sticker) came from a 1998 MIM Squier Standard Stratocaster.
     
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    Hi there from France,

    I'am new on this squire forum.
    I bought last year a japanese Fender standard strat G serial (on the headstock), but no made in Japan notice.
    In the heel I can only find a 1986 stamp. The body is probably poplar wood and has a strange bump in the pool route. Mine is supposed to be a 1989. I found out that it might be a 27-4600 model (with 2 string trees).
    Lately I found on Ebay germany a similar strat body, sayning it was a 1989 japanese strat body.
    Anyway, whatever it is, after replacing the stock pups and putting in Texas specials it plays like a dream.
    What's your opinion ?
    Thanks
     
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    Of course I forgot the link to my pics :

    http://cid-1ba2860a9547b0a2.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Fender Strat MIJ/Fender micros 002.jpg
     
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    I know this is a long time ago for this thread and your question, but terrible! The famed "Swimming Pool" Pick Up routing .... the poorest and laziest method to route for PUP's on a Strat. Ask any Luthier and they will tell you the more wood you take out and you get - 1) less body resonance, and 2) more potential for Hum (magnetic field interference between PUP's), and potential for feedback for that huge cavity. I'm surprise to see that on a MIJ, though by the time Fender switched to Dyna Gakki to make the cheapest Squier Series guitars, they were cutting corners (being cheaper) in production methods than the earlier Squier MIJ's. I've never worked on a Dyna Gakki MIJ Fender or Squier, so I can't be sure, but there is also the possibility that the body isn't original.

    FujiGen Gakki (1982 - 1975) or Tokai Gakki (1997 - 2000) would never have done that "swimming pool" PUP routing. Or at least I haven't seen one yet.
     

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