Learning all the way through.

Discussion in 'Music, Theory, Tab and Such' started by GeorgeA, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. GeorgeA

    GeorgeA Squier-Meister

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    May sound silly/stupid to alot of y'all but I'm pretty much just a couch player and when I learn stuff it's usually parts of songs
    I know parts of countless songs but only Livin After Midnight all the way through.
    I'm working on The Rover all the way through now and I'm getting it but I'm curious if anyone has any tips on learning songs all the way through as some of y'all may (probably do) have some techniques to make it a little "easier" for lack of a better term.

    Thanks,
    George

    If this is in the wrong place I apologize.
     
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  2. kniah

    kniah Squier-Meister

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    I'm still a beginner and I've found that playing along with a recording forces me to learn a whole song. This is after learning the parts individually and getting the tempo up. Also, joining a band helps if that is an option!
     
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  3. strat_strummer

    strat_strummer Squier-holic

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    I find it extremely difficult to learn any song all the way through. If it isn't a simple 1 4 5 progression I don't have the patience for anything.
     
  4. RoyalWe

    RoyalWe Squier-holic

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    I think it might depend on how you’re meaning it. Do you mean learning a song note for note all the way? I usually just learn the form of a song (ABA, ABABCB, etc) and play through the changes. Never really been one for learning a song note for note, I’d listen to the album if I wanted that. Rather I, much like you, learn parts of songs n4n. The parts I’ll learn the most from so I can apply the technique somewhere else in my playing.
     
  5. ElRey67

    ElRey67 Squier-holic

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    I’m a classic case of what George mentioned above. I’ve only learned one guitar song all the way through. And the vocals. This was about 6 years ago. Don’t know why I didn’t just keep learning other songs the way I did this one.
    Since that time, I’ve only learned parts of songs and have no self discipline to keep on track.

     
  6. Caddy

    Caddy Dr. Squier

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    I'm with RoyalWe on this. I have never had any interest in learning any song note for note exactly as on a recording. Do it in your own style, not a carbon copy (at best) of someone else.
     
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  7. banjaxed

    banjaxed Squier-Meister

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    I like to learn a complete song otherwise I don't feel any satisfaction in playing.
    But we are all different.
     
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  8. Caddy

    Caddy Dr. Squier

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    We are not saying we don't play complete songs, just that we don't have any interest in making it a note for note copy of the original recording.
     
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  9. GeorgeA

    GeorgeA Squier-Meister

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    Glad it's not just me, just kinda looking for some advice. Not trying to necessarily learn note for note (especially solos) but close enough to be recognized for what it is.
    I'd rather know how to play it exactly even if I have to play it a little differently due to my capabilities.
     
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  10. banjaxed

    banjaxed Squier-Meister

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    Sorry I misunderstood you, I tend to agree with you as it is more enjoyable to add some improvisations IMO.
     
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  11. Papa Joe

    Papa Joe Squier-Axpert

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    First I learn the chord progression, melody, then any signature lick that defines the song..From there it all falls into place..
    My biggest problem was getting the bridge right on those old jazz tunes..
     
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  12. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Squier-holic

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    For me, the problem I have is picking songs that are too hard to play. I would learn some of the song, get to a part that I really struggle with, get frustrated, and then move on to learning a new song that I couldn’t play all the way through. LoL!

    I think the first song I learned all the way through was Heavens on Fire by Kiss. Another good on to start with is We’re Not Going to Take It by Twisted Sister. Joan Jett has a ton of songs that are easy to learn. I liked having the reward of playing note for note along with the recording. And with each song you learn, you learn and practice new techniques and chords and stuff.

    So just be honest with yourself about what songs you think you can play. The more you learn, the more your confidence and ability will grow.
     
  13. TimTheViking

    TimTheViking Squier-Nut

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    It varies with me. Sometimes there's only a part of a song I like and so I learn that part. Other times I give up.
    I do like to try to play exactly like the original when doing a cover, which is what I do most. I think it helps me learn variations that I would not otherwise try. I've been finding that Band of Horses has a lot of songs that fall into my skill level from a learning/parroting aspect as well as really liking the music. It's all rhythm. I can't play lead a lick. :rolleyes: But I'm trying. I'm hoping that acquiring more guitars will somehow improve my skill level but somehow it hasn't worked out that way yet. I'm expecting another baby later this week! ;)
     
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  14. DougMen

    DougMen Squier-holic

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    It helps to write down the chord changes until you can memorize them, and label them as intro, verse, chorus, bridge, etc.
     
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  15. Paul1985

    Paul1985 Squier-Meister

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    Find a song you think you stand a good chance of playing

    Learn it in small chunks , you can try the hardest bit first if you want. Use different tab’s , videos, lessons or whatever you need to get a grasp of each chunk.

    Put a copy of the track slowed down on your fave software/YouTube video. Slow it as much as you need and try to play along.

    Work on any problem areas , slow down more if needed.

    Practice playing through slow and perfect .

    Rinse and repeat until you get up to speed.

    Play it every day , try to sing along. Try to play faster than regular speed.

    When you go back to just playing it , it will be pretty tight
     
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  16. Paul1985

    Paul1985 Squier-Meister

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    Dude you are spot on with this advice plus we’re not gonna take it is a way cool song
     
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  17. oneLOCOman

    oneLOCOman Squier-holic

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    I hadn't tried learning a new song for over a year. I have just been focusing on learning scales, licks, and chord progressions in every key. I only play blues. Few months back I started back on learning some songs, took me 5 minutes to learn the rhythm to Claptons One Love.
     
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  18. ericridebike

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    I’m another that falls into this category. Surprised to see so many others. I’ve been trying to play since high school(48 now). Over the years I’ve gone in spurts of playing, then losing interest. Like the OP, I know lots of riffs and pieces of songs, but none really note for note all the way through. I find that I have always just tried to learn songs or riffs and never really learned the music theory, scales, chords, etc... Just recently got a new guitar to give it another try and this time I want to “start over” and learn things right. Debating on lessons versus some of the online teaching methods. Hopefully this will be the time it clicks lol.
     
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  19. duzie

    duzie Squier-Meister

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    If you can find some others to play guitar with it can accelerate your ability to play complete songs.
     
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  20. FhPudd

    FhPudd Squier-Meister

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    I’m the same as a lot of you. I’ll practice a song until I get sick of it and then move on to another one without ever learning the first all the way though,then repeat.

    I made a goal for myself though about a month ago. I’m going to learn how to play 10 Years Gone all the way through even if it kills me. Lol. I’m not giving up this time !
     
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