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Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by mwmeci, Jun 29, 2019.
Is there a BEST way to install strings to stay in tune with a Fender/Squier tremolo bridge?
I have yet to successfully float a trem. I always give up the tail chasing and deck it. Curious about this as well!
One at a time. Especially if you aren’t decking the trem. I find the tension changes too much between no strings, then strings again, then strings stretching.
I almost always do half a wind above the string in the tuning machine, then the rest under, so the string locks itself into place. Unless they’re vintage style tuners.
I get close but only a Floyd Rose type seems to work.
There's a guy called Scott Henderson that just abuses his and seems to stay in tune.
Tremolo set up pts 1 - 5 (scroll down to the second row of videos)
One thing sometimes overlooked is greasing Every metal to metal contact point in the trem system.
There are allot of different opinions on the subject. I have my own method but usually find the trick is in the nut. You can setup a guitar awesome if the nut is done rite. If it is not done well you will fight the guitar forever
I like this guy. He seems to know his stuff!
I use the over/under method to lock them to the post..Then remove as much resistance as I can..After that it's just a matter of balancing the tension between the tuners and the springs..This takes some work but I have been quite successful with it..
When stringing and floating a trem, I use a couple of tricks, and have had success. I start with lubing the tuners by adding a drop of White Lightning Epic Ride bicycle chain semi dry lubricant, to the gears. Then graphite the nut slots with a regular pencil. I suppose you could graphite the saddle tops as well. On stringing, I go with the @drewcp / @Papa Joe over under wind. It's a bullet proof system that even works on stock or cheap tuners. String choice is up to you, I usually use Slinky 10's or Chromacast Max Sustain 10's (very inexpensive on ebay). When tight but not tuned yet, start stretching the strings from nut to butt. With tuning close, stretch again, closer, keep stretching. When you are in tune with the trem starting to lift, place your trem cover under the lifting trem. Do the back and forth, tuners to spring adjusting, until the cover falls away from the trem. You are now in tune with trem floating 1/8" above body.
I swapped a Squier SE (white) to @Kenneth Mountain for a great tele. I set up the SE and floated the trem to perfection. Not wanting to bleep things up, I shipped without loosening everything up. Shipping time was only 2 days. The 1st thing I heard back from KenMo was "how did you get the trem to float like that...….". Magic I guess.
there's this weird thing between our zipcodes - I have sent a whole guitar to Surf for 15 and change ? and pretty close vice versa ?
I float my tremolos no problem. I've had all the strings off and strung them up or replaced them one at a time, makes no difference. Most often, just one at a time just well.. I suppose it's only when I need to work on the guts or something that I'll take them all off completely.
But as @fadetoz points out, if the nut is not properly dressed, the strings will bind in there all the time, followed by bridge points and all the other possibilities.
If you find the only way you can ever get it to be in tune is by having it decked, where the strings are always being pulled out of their binding points, well it's the binding points that need fixin'.
All mine float about 1/8 or so. Enough for a light touch to enact some effect to nice dives, always stays in tune, tuners don't matter. (Super Slinky 9s.)
This Guy also explains it Well....