How to determine guitar type for a beginner?

Discussion in 'Squier Stratocasters' started by drabina, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. wildelectric

    wildelectric Squier-Meister

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    I'm totally on board with @Papa Joe 's suggestion. Part of learning guitar is learning to maintain it. A Telecaster or another guitar that's simple(er) to maintain is a wise start.

    Squier Affinity Telecaster

    I would add - don't go too cheap. Getting something that saves you money but has questionable intonation, machine heads that won't keep the guitar in tune, wonky electronics, etc., is just going to be discouraging and eventually wall decoration in a pawn store or the local Guitar Center.
     
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  2. BlueSquirrel

    BlueSquirrel Squier-Nut

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    A few accessories might be useful, such as a capo and either a gigbag or a guitar stand (to put away your guitar when you don't play it). A stand would make you want to pick it up and a bag would be handy to carry it around (for example to go to a guitar teacher's). A few private lessons with an instructor to help you start can make a huge difference imo.
     
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  3. BlueSquirrel

    BlueSquirrel Squier-Nut

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    Lucky you!
     
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  4. drabina

    drabina Squier Talker

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    Wow. Tons of good info. Thanks again.

    Good point about the tremolo. It was actually on my list of concerns. Musician Friend's has HT version of Bullet Strat for $150 which is only $30 more than the tremolo version. Would that be better or should I look for a Telecaster? I am still lost on all the pickup options/sounds and guitar versions.
     
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  5. BlueSquirrel

    BlueSquirrel Squier-Nut

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    Whatever the guitar you end up with, you will need a tuner (you must always tune your guitar before playing). If you have a mobile phone, you can use a free app, for instance "Fender Tune".
     
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  6. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Squier-holic

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    Don't let a Strat tremolo bridge concern you. You can have a guitar tech deck the bridge against the body when you have it setup, it will act just like a hardtail. Then later when you get more experience you can have it setup to floating.....
     
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  7. oneLOCOman

    oneLOCOman Squier-Meister

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    Ya come to a squire strat forum and ask what guitar we would recommend. After pondering for a bit, I would strongly recommend a squire strat. I would get a standard or higher model, the CV's look cool. Now if ya want to spend mucho denro get ya a MIA (made in usa) Tele, what a sweet ax to play!!!
     
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  8. mkgearhead

    mkgearhead Squier-holic

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    Welcome! With the quality of the "entry level" guitars these days, pick a guitar that appeals to you and makes you want to pick it up and play it. There are certain colors of guitars I've had that played and sounded awesome but I didn't play them because of the color. We guitar nuts are a strange bunch. :D
     
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  9. Davis Sharp

    Davis Sharp Dr. Squier

    Jan 7, 2016
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    Welcome to Squier-Talk.

    I started with a Strat (I still have it). I never gave any consideration to set-up, tremolo decking, whatever; because I didn't know what the hell any of that was. So, with an abundant amount of ignorance, I did not over-think it.

    And you know what, it didn't matter. I played the hell out of that Strat and enjoyed it. I still do.

    With all due respect to my fellow Squier-Talk members who don't recommend Strats as starter guitars, you should thank them for their time and opinions and buy the Strat anyway. Get the traditional model with three single coils and experiment with the switch selector.

    You will never get close to Mark Knopfler's Strat sound with anything else.

    Now let's talk about your second guitar. Either a Tele or a Les Paul would be a fine choice. For the latter, Epiphone is an excellent brand, but there are less expensive brands too.
     
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  10. waynes world

    waynes world Squier-Meister

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    And hey if you stick around this forum you’ll have three guitars by Halloween
     
  11. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Squier-holic

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    Ha, well... it gets a little messy with narrow nut widths, trying to finger just one string without muting the ones next to it.
     
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  12. dbrian66

    dbrian66 Squier-holic

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    Hello and welcome to the forum!

    A lot of good advise here so far. You have a big decision ahead of you! LOL!

    My two cents on the topic, the most important thing right now is getting a guitar that makes you want to play. Just being honest, it doesn’t matter what kind of guitar you get, your not going to sound like Mark Knopfler for a while. So go to a music store and just look around. You don’t even have to touch any of them. Find the one that you think is the coolest guitar there. Then pick it up and see how it feels sitting in your lap. If it’s all good then that’s the one you buy. Like others have said, pay the extra money to have someone set it up probably and then take it home and put it on a guitar stand somewhere that you will see it often. Hopefully you will pick it up and play a little every time you walk by!

    And when you buy something, make sure you do a NGD thread here and show it off to all of us!
     
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  13. IronSchef

    IronSchef Squier-holic

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    hey - welcome to Squier-Talk!

    I am going to echo what @Papa Joe and @wildelectric have said -- I usually recommend a Tele to a beginner as a first electric. No finicky Trem to set up, only 3 pickup combinations, wonderful iconic tone.

    Telecaster = pure and simple
     
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  14. oneLOCOman

    oneLOCOman Squier-Meister

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    Check out them Firefly guitars on Amazon. There around $135. Get a Bugera BC15 amp or a Monoprice 5W and ya got a sweet setup for around $250. Trust me I wouldn't steer ya wrong.:cool:
     
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  15. drabina

    drabina Squier Talker

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    This is my third attempt to learn guitar. First, I have tried an Yamaha acoustic but failed due to the time constrains and the high action. Couple of years later, I bought an electric Epiphone Les Paul Special II (used) in vintage sunburst. It was a lot easier to play than the acoustic but again, due to the limited space, I had to take the whole system out of the closet to practice then put it back. Failed again. Now, in my man-cave I can have a permanent setup. Third time's the charm, right?

    So I know a bit about tuners, additional accessories, and the basics. I just don't know how to play and always wanted to learn.
     
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  16. oneLOCOman

    oneLOCOman Squier-Meister

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    There are a lot of sites that teach guitar. Google top ten guitar teaching sites.
     
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  17. tortuga

    tortuga Squier Talker

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    It doesn’t really matter what kind it is, just that it is decent quality and setup well. My first guitar was a strat and I never had any issues with the tremolo. Just ask the store to set it up for you and then don’t get bored and start messing with it. Strats are much more tonally versatile than a tele and I agree they are the most comfortable with their contours. But again it doesn’t really matter. I would avoid amazon/ebay guitars because the quality can be random. Not a big deal later on but just potentially something to get in the way of learning now if you get one that has issues. Any Squier Bullet should be good.


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  18. DougMen

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    I would also recommend a Strat with a Humbucker at the bridge, so you can get Strat sounds from the front two pickups, and more Les Paul type tones from the bridge pickup. And I would stay away from tube amps at first, and instead I would opt for an affordable modeling amp, like the Vox VX1 or Fender Champion 20 (both of which are $100), which will give you a wide range of amp tones and effects to experiment with, so you can find out what types of amp sounds and effects that you prefer.
    You can get a Bullet Strat with a HB bridge pickup for $150, or for $50 more an Affinity Strat with a HB bridge pickup. The Bullet is a hardtail, and the Affinity has the Strat style trem which to me is one of the high points of the Strat sound. 0371005506_gtr_frt_001_rr.jpg 0370700564_gtr_frt_001_rr.jpg VX1_CP_VSR.jpg Fender_Champion20_2.jpg
     
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  19. jvin248

    jvin248 Squier-Meister

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    Most important: find a good guitar tech ... they don't hang out at GC. A good tech can take any starter guitar and fretwork plus setup have it playing like a model that costs 10x the price.
    Find this guy and you can buy used guitars.

    +1 get a 'hard tail' non-tremolo guitar.
    Acoustic guitars (saw a pick in someone's post above) have higher string tension and are harder to play than electric. They are also loud all the time where an electric can be played unplugged.

    If you have medium to larger hands you may find a 'chunkier neck' is easier to play than a 'skinny fast neck'. I regretted getting a skinny neck guitar, all Squier Strats are skinny. Some Squier Teles are skinny some are bigger, but it's hit/miss even within models.

    Epiphone Special II is a good starting platform. No trem, chunkier neck, inexpensive. I have a Junior (single pickup version) that gets played more than the top end guitars I have.

    If you want to spend a little more, a used MIM Fender Tele is a great choice, used PRS SE models are too.

    You can hard-tail or block the trem on any Strat so not all is lost if you want to start there.

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  20. jjudas

    jjudas Squier-holic

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    I'm going to recommend getting an electric guitar that doesn't have a tremolo. Epiphone Specials or Squier Bullet Telecasters is a good starting place to look. I learned on an acoustic and a SG. Whatever you choose, make sure you get it set up. If you do get a Strat, you can deck the tremolo and use it as a hardtail.
     
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