Current fretboard material question

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by Robbmonster, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Robbmonster

    Robbmonster Squier-holic

    I have noticed in recent times Fender is no longer listing a fretboard material for Squier guitars. Like if you look at the specs sheet for say an Affinity Strat on the Fender website, it says the 'neck material' is maple, but there is no mention of fretboard material, even on the 'rosewood' version.

    Given the new restrictions on rosewood trade, is it possible Fender are using woods other than rosewood (pau ferro, etc) and simply avoiding the issue by not mentioning it?

    By the way, not sure what category in the forum my question belongs, so decided tech-talk is as good a place as any...
     
  2. rocknrguitars

    rocknrguitars Squier Talker

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    Fender announced in May of this year all Mexican made, and some elite USA models would be pau ferro. My guess is Squire will, or already has, go to Richlite fret boards. CITES Rules have really made it hard to ship anything with rosewood on it.
     
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  3. Robbmonster

    Robbmonster Squier-holic

    Thanks for the info. I actually remember now about the announcement by Fender.

    Not sure I like the idea of richlite, but hey, there once was a time when people thought putting pickups in guitars didn't seem like such a hot idea.
     
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  4. radiotech

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    Yamaha's been using it for years on the lower end Pacifica's, it does the job.
     
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  5. surf green

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    Ok, for those (like me) who don't know what the bleep Richlite is, Wikipedia defines it as a paper composite panel made from recycled paper and phenolic resin. Multiple layers of paper soaked in resin, then molded and baked into shape in a form or press. Original uses were kitchen surfaces and tables on Boeing 747's.

    Now, how that can be safer than rosewood, I don't know. What I do know is that most resins used in surfboard manufacturing are toxic and restrictions leveled on that industry almost brought it to its knees.

    I recently bought a rosewood neck from Stratos PFEIFFER_RICHLITE_Stratum_1680_630_02.JPG IMG_0285-600x600.jpg phere and found the price to be the same, no problem with shipping, and I lived to tell about it.
     
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  6. Dr Improbable

    Dr Improbable Squier-Nut

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    After reading that, I'll take maple please...
     
  7. theflow

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    Amazing to me that Martin has been using it for awhile.
     
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  8. Davis Sharp

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    Martin has used Richlite for years It works fine and never needs oiling.
     
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  9. LutherBurger

    LutherBurger Squier-Nut

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    Rosewood's problem isn't that it's unsafe for us. It's unsafe from us.

    Bring on the non-endangered paper and synthetic resin. I'm looking forward to trying it without having to fork over the casheesh for a Gibson or Martin.

    EDIT:
    Aha! I did not know this. Thank you.
     
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  10. theflow

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    I know but it is a high quality guitar with a cheap fret board,doesn't set right with me.
     
  11. theflow

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    Rosewoods problem is the Chinese furniture makers not fret boards.
     
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  12. LutherBurger

    LutherBurger Squier-Nut

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    I included "them" within "us".
     
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  13. duceditor

    duceditor Dr. Squier

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    I've always loved the look and feel of ebony. Richlite is very close.

    Whatever it is that Epiphone uses in their lower priced guitars is to me a great wood. I prefer it to actual rosewood. Darker. More even in color. And finer grain.

    -don
     
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  14. Big tuna

    Big tuna Squier-holic

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    I wasn't keen on roasted maple FB on LP's till i got one i don't even think anything about it anymore when i play it now. If it feels good play it! or is it if it looks good eat it! ah both the same thing.
     
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  15. theflow

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    I believe that is a coating over rosewood called "PRO-Ease" Lubricant.:)
     
  16. johnnywizzo

    johnnywizzo Squier-Meister

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    Epiphone lists rosewood as the fingerboard material on most of their lower priced guitars. Do you think that it is actually something else?
     
  17. duceditor

    duceditor Dr. Squier

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    Yes.

    I am by no means an expert on wood. And I do not know how loosely or tightly the term "rosewood" is used -- but the photo on the left -- a Gibson Les Paul -- looks to my eyes as I expect "rosewood" to look. The photo on the right -- my `06 Epiphone Junior -- does not. Too fine grained. Too even in color. Too dark.


    Rosewood WEB.jpg Not WEB.jpg

    Both of these 'boards are pretty dry. Oil each of them and the difference is amplified.

    -don
     
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  18. theflow

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  19. duceditor

    duceditor Dr. Squier

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    That may well be what I am seeing.

    Whatever's the case, I like i! :)

    -don
     
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  20. theflow

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    That is all that matters !:)
     
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