Bought my first “vintage” Fender

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  1. Lonn

    Lonn Administrator Staff Member

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    I came across an 83 American Standard 2 knob Smith era strat for a good price and jumped. Hopefully be here by Friday. All original even the original case and tremolo bar. This last couple of years I’ve been buying more expensive gear hoping to find one I’ll keep, hasnt t happened yet. Maybe this time.

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  2. Mister Noonan

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    Happy NGD. Very interesting looking tremolo!
     
  3. RoyalWe

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    Man, it looks like it’s hardly been played! Congrats.
     
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  5. squierTony

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    I really don't think you'd keep a Custom order Custom shop guitar lol. I like the new one. HNGD
     
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  6. jackdragbean

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    Nice. Very different. First I've seen like that.
     
  7. Pat V.

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    Happy New Guitar Day!!
    Those top loader tremolos were unique. For those of us old enough to remember these being released, we remember they were broadly vilified by the guitar buying public at the time because of the drastic changes but Fender was sorting out how they would compete with all of the competition coming out of Asia and this was a way to reduce manufacturing costs. I remember playing them in the shops and thought they felt really good. I also remember seeing them hanging in the shops when the first Squiers started to land. I would love to have one of those in my collection now.
     
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  8. Mister Noonan

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  9. Two knob, 12 screw pick guard, regular output jack, kookie bridge ... Wow !
    Cheers, Barrie.
     
  10. Merv_j

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    She's a beaut!
     
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  12. Lonn

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    If you believe everything you read online these are junk guitars but the last couple actually sold on ebay went for over $1k and there's a half dozen more on there right now ranging from about $1150-1500. I paid under $800 with shipping and tax so if I don't like it there's no downside to trying it. The tremolo on these is odd and I'm looking forward to tinkering with it.

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  13. AllroyPA

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    I agree that is as odd as I’ve ever seen
     
  14. Lonn

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    It was called the Free Flyte. I'm curious to see the underside.
     
  15. SoundDesign

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    It was called the "Swift Flyte" (Free Flyte??) trem system, it's most unique/notorious feature being the lack of a back trem cavity route. Here's mine (I bought it new and it was the first guitar I bought with my own money):

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    Can they be floated? Maybe but I gave up trying in my teens and decked it. The full pickguard swap with EMGs was a bit later but I still have the original "loaded" pickguard in a drawer along with the bar and the little "case candy" Swift Flyte setup pamphlet.
     
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  16. Lonn

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    Got the name wrong, here's a Free Flyte. Also used on some Dan Smith era Strats. Have a pic of that Swift Flyte pamphlet? Google gives me nothing called a Swift Flyte and I've never heard the term.

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  17. Mister Noonan

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    @Lonn , what was the criticism of this system? Stability? Mass? Ability to block? It looks easier to string than a standard strat.
     
  18. Lonn

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    Geez, one of these Free Flyte trems just sold on Reverb for $190 last week. Apparent;y everyone doesn't hate them after all.
     
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  19. Lonn

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    You know I haven't read any particular criticism. I did read an old post on TDPRI that I believe sums up the complaints about this particular model. And I quote...

    "I've had this 83 Revised Edition since it was about a year old. Frankly It's so good I've never had the urge to buy another Strat in all these year.

    The bad rap on this guitar got started back when the Japanese were putting out some really nice Strat copies and Dan Smith as marketing Director for Fender at the time decided to introduce a model that included some superficial cost cutting measures to stay competitive. None of which by the way had anything to do with the tone, quality, playability, or workmanship of the guitar itself.

    Once again I want to point out that both the "Revised Edition" and the "Dan Smith" are guitars made with the same neck, body, pickups, at the same Fullerton factory, by the same employees, on the same assembly line, and with the same materials. It is a testement to the potency of the "he said, she said, rumor mill" that even after understanding those facts some folks still just don't get it. How can one be so highly revered and the other so scorned?

    The answer is that Stratocaster purists took offense the minute the model was issued. It was insulting to them that the "Holy Grail" of American electric guitars had been tampered with. The gossip mill started in the early eighties and continues even to this day.

    However, things have changed drastically. Todays Strat enthusiast not only accepts changes to the original design but even welcomes them. Hence single and double humbucker Strats, 7 position switching, noiseless pickups, rear loaded electronics with no pick guard, set neck Strats, it goes on and on and hybrid configurations of almost every Fender model now abound. I guarantee you that most of these drastic revisions if introduced in the early eighties would have been scorned by Strat purists of the time and quickly driven off the market."
     
  20. SoundDesign

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