Do newly made Classic vibes still have poor quality soft fret wire?

[hoggy-bhoy]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone could comment on the quality of the fret wire on Newly made classic vibes?

I’ve got a 2009 50’s strat and the wire is as soft as hell and is wearing Bad.
I’ve heard other people comment on this before so I was wondering if they have Fixed the issue on newly made CV's?

[D34dBaWx]

They still have tiny trem blocks... And these guitars cost over 300 bucks new?

[hoggy-bhoy]

Yeh I know but a trem block is easily replaced frets aren’t

[Hotrodleroy]

If they would have spent 20.00 more on each one there wouldn't be any troubles at all, maybe less.

[hunter rose IV]

this is unsettling news,as i was looking to purchase an '12 CV 50's in Lake Placid Blue.

Has anyone else had this issue with the frets wearing out quickly?

yikes...

Thom

[Budwen Stevie]

I just bought mine directly through fender 2 months ago. My frets are doing fine and I play it every day. The only wearing I'm doing is on my strings.

[hoggy-bhoy]

Originally Posted by hunter rose IV

this is unsettling news,as i was looking to purchase an '12 CV 50's in Lake Placid Blue.

Has anyone else had this issue with the frets wearing out quickly?

yikes...

Thom

Thats why i wanted to know if they had fixed this problem on newly
made CV's

[hoggy-bhoy]

Originally Posted by Budwen Stevie

I just bought mine directly through fender 2 months ago. My frets are doing fine and I play it every day. The only wearing I'm doing is on my strings.

What year was your guitar made?

[Kiwiclapton]

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

What year was your guitar made?

This might be a key question, I got my 60's strat in Oct last year, and its a 2008 model and there are no signs of wear at all. And I've been thrashing it.

[pchilson]

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

Thats why i wanted to know if they had fixed this problem on newly
made CV's

I think you are under the spell of an internet rumor. IMHO

[hoggy-bhoy]

Originally Posted by pchilson

I think you are under the spell of an internet rumor. IMHO

what do you mean a rumor ? i had fret ware after a month and its been two years now, i dont play that hard and i use size 9 strings.

i thought this would be a widespread problem,im surprised that i dont
hear about this problem more often. maybe it doesnt bother some people?

[D34dBaWx]

Originally Posted by pchilson

I think you are under the spell of an internet rumor. IMHO

I think if he is having the problem that counts out rumor. lol. A tech once told me they use crappy fret wire and that it will be wavy like the ocean after very little use. It's pretty easy to tell the bridge block is cheap as well. And the neck finish on them reminds me of plastic. I have said it once before and will say it again. Those CV are over priced in my opinion. You can buy a used MIM Fender, spend very little in mods and come out cheaper and with specs for just how you like it. Don't get me wrong. I am not squier basher, I LOVE my squiers. I just see the CV series as way over priced for what they are. I dont really feel that way about other Squier series guitars though. I find the other stuff to be a stellar bargain. Again, just my opinion. Everybody's got em.

[tlimbert65]

I bought a new CV50 Tele on April 1, 2011, and have played the hell out of it almost every day, and I can't see any visible fret wear.

[Papa Joe]

Geezzz..I thought the idea was to wear them out..When I was in my "prime" that was my main objective..Succeded pretty durn good at it too..

[pchilson]

Originally Posted by D34dBaWx

I think if he is having the problem that counts out rumor. lol. A tech once told me they use crappy fret wire and that it will be wavy like the ocean after very little use. It's pretty easy to tell the bridge block is cheap as well. And the neck finish on them reminds me of plastic. I have said it once before and will say it again. Those CV are over priced in my opinion. You can buy a used MIM Fender, spend very little in mods and come out cheaper and with specs for just how you like it. Don't get me wrong. I am not squier basher, I LOVE my squiers. I just see the CV series as way over priced for what they are. I dont really feel that way about other Squier series guitars though. I find the other stuff to be a stellar bargain. Again, just my opinion. Everybody's got em.

I was under the impression that he doesn't own the guitar he is questioning. There is some talk of it out there for sure but to this day I haven't seen one picture showing it. Thats weird...

[Budwen Stevie]

It was made in 2011...but a little bit disclosure...mine is left handed.

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

What year was your guitar made?

[hoggy-bhoy]

Originally Posted by pchilson

I was under the impression that he doesn't own the guitar he is questioning. There is some talk of it out there for sure but to this day I haven't seen one picture showing it. Thats weird...

i tryed to take a pic , it didnt show up well

[GreenGoblin]

Mines an 08 60's and the fret wire is fine

[alfunkz]

Originally Posted by D34dBaWx

I think if he is having the problem that counts out rumor. lol. A tech once told me they use crappy fret wire and that it will be wavy like the ocean after very little use. It's pretty easy to tell the bridge block is cheap as well. And the neck finish on them reminds me of plastic. I have said it once before and will say it again. Those CV are over priced in my opinion. You can buy a used MIM Fender, spend very little in mods and come out cheaper and with specs for just how you like it. Don't get me wrong. I am not squier basher, I LOVE my squiers. I just see the CV series as way over priced for what they are. I dont really feel that way about other Squier series guitars though. I find the other stuff to be a stellar bargain. Again, just my opinion. Everybody's got em.

my CV is an 09 and has no signs of fret ware, this may not be a rumour but it certainly doesnt appear to be a common problem. a bridge block is fairly simple to change and relatively cheap so thats not a major issue. in the second hand market a CV holds its price very well, whereas a MIM is cheaper, says it all IMHO. Why buy a MIM which is supposed to be a better guitar out of the box and upgrade it. To be honest its down to taste, and the only real differences are one is made in mexico the other in the far east, and the fender has ceramic pups the squier alnicos, in the brand new market the squier is better value for money no doubt about it

[pchilson]

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

i tryed to take a pic , it didnt show up well

I'm talking about the Classic Vibes. I don't doubt you on your own guitar.
I've read the threads you are more than likely refering to but strangely not one photo has been posted in those threads. Thats why I call it a rumor. No photographic evidence.

[hoggy-bhoy]

Originally Posted by pchilson

I'm talking about the Classic Vibes. I don't doubt you on your own guitar.
I've read the threads you are more than likely refering to but strangely not one photo has been posted in those threads. Thats why I call it a rumor. No photographic evidence.

maybe someone else will be able to take a good picture that shows it clearly
its hard to capture.

[D34dBaWx]

Originally Posted by alfunkz

my CV is an 09 and has no signs of fret ware, this may not be a rumour but it certainly doesnt appear to be a common problem. a bridge block is fairly simple to change and relatively cheap so thats not a major issue. in the second hand market a CV holds its price very well, whereas a MIM is cheaper, says it all IMHO. Why buy a MIM which is supposed to be a better guitar out of the box and upgrade it. To be honest its down to taste, and the only real differences are one is made in mexico the other in the far east, and the fender has ceramic pups the squier alnicos, in the brand new market the squier is better value for money no doubt about it

I didn't say anything about upgrades. I said mod to specs of personal taste. I don't buy guitars thinking of resale value either. But that being said I have never taken a loss on any fender I bought used and modded. Actually I have made money or come out ahead. And most of those deals took place on this very forum. And as I stated. It's just my opinion, they are over priced for what they are.

[GreenGoblin]

Hmmm - if they are overpriced, what does that make a MIM? Not my opinion, but that of the Music Industry Awards. Best guitar under £600, a price range which includes Fender MIM
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/articl...nder-600-.html

[mjpgolf1]

Wow, I think this is the first time Ive ever heard of someone so down on the Classic Vibes. I, along with most, think that they are one heck of a guitar and a very good bargain for what it competes with. Ive owned a CV 50s and the fit and finish on it was superb. Very nice guitars for the money and they do hold thier value really well compared to the MIMs. Take a look on ebay at used CVs and what they cost after a couple years compared to thier price new, then look at the MIMs and they are worth about half of what they cost new, sometimes less. The thing is that opinions are great and we all have em but the raw numbers dont lie.

[D34dBaWx]

I think they are great guitars if you can find one for 200 or less. For 300 used? No way. I would take a Squier Standard over a CV any day of the week. I could careless about resale values. I don't buy them to get rid of them generally. Good luck finding a MIM tele for half price anywhere.. lol. I love Squiers and wouldn't trade mine for the world., I just think the classic vibe guitars are over priced. This isn't the 80's. You can get guitars with amazing fit and finish and build quality for under 200 bucks all day. I will keep my opinions to myself from now on. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways guys.

[alfunkz]

if you are modifying from original spec is that not an upgrade? i do completely understand it is your opinion but you must have had a bad experience with a CV because all of the high end squiers are of very similar build quality ok some have duncan design pups and hotrails but that is the only real difference the rest of the electrics and materials are the same so to ba fair if you dont have a problem with them there shouldnt be a problem with the CV

[D34dBaWx]

I bow out. Sorry I commented. The dead horse is being beat to death and doing none of us any good.

[hoggy-bhoy]

lol anyway........

so has any 1 else seen worn frets on a cv strat? im beginning to think its just mine

[mjpgolf1]

We all love squiers or we wouldnt be here. Really if you look at the build quality of some of the early Fenders our squiers are top notch compareably speaking. These are great guitars and in this day in age we should all feel good about being able to buy such a quality instrument for a good price. They are hit and miss though sometimes so to some people I understand why they would say that a specific guitar wasnt a good value. Most of those people have just had a bad experience. It happens with everything, cars, electronics, etc. So I understand that everyone is not gonna be happy with a certain thing. If we all agreed on everything this forum would be pointless to have and very boring.

[mjpgolf1]

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

lol anyway........

so has any 1 else seen worn frets on a cv strat? im beginning to think its just mine

You must have gotten a bad one man. Because this is the first Ive heard of it. It would really be great to see some quality pics though to see what you are saying, not that we dont believe you, but just to document the problem so we know what to look for.

[alfunkz]

d34dbaw sorry if i made you feel that way, i have as strong an opinion for the cv as you do against it. like you said opinions we all have em its them opinions that keep a good debate going

[kevinpaul]

I know about the fret thing from here and other places. The sales guy I like and always deal with told me to look at another guitar because of the fret deal. His guy told me "a do not buy" the first time ever. Now I believe it.

[kevinpaul]

Originally Posted by hoggy-bhoy

Yeh I know but a trem block is easily replaced frets aren’t

I like doing my own work, except for frets. I did it on my Rickenbacker a '69 and the frets lasted 27 years. I will never do it again, bad job.

[fenderfreak]

I've never heard of a CV fret issue...

I do like the CV's, but I don't see owing one ever....I don't see the need to. Maybe if I sold my Standard, but.....

[mrlinguini]

Around these parts (so cal) you can buy MIM Strats (near mint to mint) for $200.00-$250.00 all day long on Craigs. And they are not selling fast.

So ya just gotta ask yourself....MIM or China?

[beetle101]

I've got a Fender MIM HSS Fat Strat that is a nice guitar, but I have a Squier Deluxe Standard Strat that I like much better. Just basically the way the Standard plays so it's just personal preference I guess. I've heard a lot of good things about the CV line and thought seriously about a 60's Strat. But somehow just never got around to buying one, but I do keep my eyes open for a nice used one.

[Hotrodleroy]

Originally Posted by mrlinguini

Around these parts (so cal) you can buy MIM Strats (near mint to mint) for $200.00-$250.00 all day long on Craigs. And they are not selling fast.

So ya just gotta ask yourself....MIM or China?

If I could buy 2009 and above mim strats all day long for 200.00 I'd jump on them.

[Papa Joe]

Originally Posted by Hotrodleroy

If I could buy 2009 and above mim strats all day long for 200.00 I'd jump on them.

If I could buy any decent condition MIM Strats all day long for $200, That's what I'd be doin' all day long..Then all night long I'd be sellin' 'em for $250-$300...or more..

[Hotrodleroy]

Originally Posted by Papa Joe

If I could buy any decent condition MIM Strats all day long for $200, That's what I'd be doin' all day long..Then all night long I'd be sellin' 'em for $250-$300...or more..

I see we think along the same lines........

[pchilson]

MIMs here are listing from $300 to $450. The listings are renewed over and over. Just crazy.