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Japanese Vintage Squiers "Vintage" Made in Japan from 1982 -1984 the JV and SQ Squier Strats and Teles are some of the most popular Squiers.

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Old 01-21-2012, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got an E Series Squier Strat Made in Japan. Very Heavy compared to American Ash bodied strat.

Squier is King of the Hill on sound, comfort etc.

Body weighs in (loaded) at 6.25 Lbs. Initially thought it was Basswood but that's supposedly a light weight wood, Alder also a lighter weight wood ?

Anyone know for sure what Body wood they would have used on the 80s MIJ Squiers ?

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Alder is heavier than basswood. Fairly heavy, some of the Japan models, I believe, were plywood bodies, but not sure.

Someone on here will be more help.
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Just curious - I just took apart my E7 serial number MIJ Squier strat today.
Not plywood, but I'm not sure what type of solid wood.

I'll post pictures in another thread about it - on Monday.
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Forgot tp ask -what year E series are you asking about?
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Sen Ash perhaps? Is it a burst finish?
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Thank for the replies . It's an '87/88 Maybe. Search engine on a Serial No. site gave it as 1984-1987 Made at Fuji-Gen.

Solid black color, not plywood. Think the plywood only started in Korea from info. I've been reading, but I'm no expert. Serial No. E807***

Think maybe Alder as I believe Basswood is lighter.

Any idea what Pick ups are fitted (Pic) ?

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Forgive me but I had to chuckle a bit over your saying that a 6.25lb body is heavy. My Tele's weigh about 2lbs more than that. The holy grail of Tele's is to actually find one as light as your Strat.

Depending on the density of the wood basswood isn't necessarily lighter than alder. In fact in some cases it could be heavier. Basswood is a softer wood than Alder but not always lighter. I'm not all that familiar with the Squiers from Japan but basswood and agathis seem to be the most oft used body woods in Far Eastern manufacture.

The MIM models tend to use Alder and Poplar but those may have been used in Japanese manufacture as well. Fender themselves could probably tell you if you email them; customerrelations@fender.com
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FWIW, I have two MIJ 1984 Squier Bullet guitars and they are different weights. The sunburst is around 7 pounds and the black one weighs 7 pounds 12 ounces.

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"Forgive me but I had to chuckle a bit over your saying that a 6.25lb body is heavy"

Hi soulman969, bad choice or sequence of words I guess. To put the record straight, not complaining at all of the "heavy" Strat. Comparing it to the Sienna Sunburst (Ash): perception is, it's about 25% heavier than the Ash.

Heavier is preferred (for me).
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I don't 100% know the specifics of those pickups in the picture above - but the whole setup looks similar to my E7 MIJ....except the E7 I have has a single ply pickguard.
Some sort of single coil ceramics - but at least in my case they sound nice....
Coupled with full size alpha 250K pots and a 473K cap (green "chicklet" style.

BTW - look at how nice the neck pocket routing is done in all the photos above....
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Just curious - I just took apart my E7 serial number MIJ Squier strat today.
Not plywood, but I'm not sure what type of solid wood.

I'll post pictures in another thread about it - on Monday.
My vote would go to agathis. Its about as dense as Mahogany, or so I'm lead to understand.
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I've found on basswood bodies that the screws come out very easily and go back in easy. If the screws go in and out with a light squeaking sound it's a harder wood. The neck pocket almost looks like popular to me, but it hard to tell.
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I've found on basswood bodies that the screws come out very easily and go back in easy. If the screws go in and out with a light squeaking sound it's a harder wood. The neck pocket almost looks like popular to me, but it hard to tell.
Thanks for the squeaking Screw clue !!

Yes, they squeak, almost like you can hear them gripping, If that makes any sense.

A harder wood would be what I wonder ?.

Thanks again
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Thanks for the squeaking Screw clue !!

Yes, they squeak, almost like you can hear them gripping, If that makes any sense.

A harder wood would be what I wonder ?.

Thanks again
Again, at 6. what ever pounds, I would guess Agathis or Alder.
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Cheers all, for all the input. I am leaning toward Alder.
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Update on Wood question:

Well, really don't care anymore (but still curious ), found another identical E series MIJ and bought it.

Considering refinishing the Body of one of them in Surf Green. That will bring peace to the household. "She" loves Surf Green Strats.

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FWIW, I have two MIJ 1984 Squier Bullet guitars and they are different weights. The sunburst is around 7 pounds and the black one weighs 7 pounds 12
Just to clarify, these weights are for the total guitar including neck.
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Just to clarify, these weights are for the total guitar including neck.
Wood, type, density etc. is so variable. My USA Made Strats' Neck for example is outweighed by each of the Skinny Squire Affinity necks I have.

Thinner Squier Affinity Body (Stripped of hardware), I believe Agathis, is 4 Lbs 9 ozs.

Won't have the other E series until maybe 1st Feb.
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looks like morning wood.....
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looks like morning wood.....
A Biological function with paint on it ?
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